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Is it safe to run a programmer for a long period of time?

Old Jul 7, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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Is it safe to run a programmer for a long period of time?

I plan to keep my truck for over 100k miles and want my engine to last. Would it be smarter to never run a programmer for better MPG or is it safe to run one for the life of the truck? I use my truck for work and need it to last for a while.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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I ran a superchips flashpaq on my 06 for 90,000 miles and it never went in the shop.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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I have been running my Troyer tuned XCAL2 for 40K miles with absolutely no issues what so ever. I do return my truck to stock tune when I take it in for service. My truck is an ole' 02' that I bought new and I did wait until my factory warranty was up before I did any mods to it. I would wait for some more responses about how the tuning may affect your warranty just to be safe. I'm not really sure how all that works.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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My truck has over 88,000 miles on it and about 58,000 are with an Edge/Gryphon. Unless you abuse the truck, the tranny should last even longer. If you abuse it, race it, or whatever, that is not the programmer causing the problem.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Hmm ok cool. I just had some bad experiences with my Audi a few cars back... Then again that was a Turbo and I chipped it for more boost. Obviously had to replace that turbo after driving it like I stole it.

Thanks for all the responses so far. I hope some more come in to help make my choice.

Should I wait a certain amount of miles for my new truck before getting a programmer?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Hmm ok cool. I just had some bad experiences with my Audi a few cars back... Then again that was a Turbo and I chipped it for more boost. Obviously had to replace that turbo after driving it like I stole it.

Thanks for all the responses so far. I hope some more come in to help make my choice.

Should I wait a certain amount of miles for my new truck before getting a programmer?
Never seen anything as to a waiting period. I know they say your gas mileage will continue to improve up to about 10,000 miles. I waited until my warranty was about out as I knew my dealer would not honor the warranty with a tuner. If that were not a consideration, then personally, I would wait until about 10,000 miles.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Never seen anything as to a waiting period. I know they say your gas mileage will continue to improve up to about 10,000 miles. I waited until my warranty was about out as I knew my dealer would not honor the warranty with a tuner. If that were not a consideration, then personally, I would wait until about 10,000 miles.
Ok good to know I will wait for the 10k mark. Have about 9k to go lol.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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I don't know much about programmers so I'd like to ask something also. If my truck is still under warranty and I decide to get a programmer can I remove the programmer for service that's covered under the warranty if needed? Or does the truck's computer record the use of the programmer? Yes it seems sneaky but ya' gotta do what'cha gotta do!
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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my car has been tuned with SCT derived software for almost a decade!
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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I don't know much about programmers so I'd like to ask something also. If my truck is still under warranty and I decide to get a programmer can I remove the programmer for service that's covered under the warranty if needed? Or does the truck's computer record the use of the programmer? Yes it seems sneaky but ya' gotta do what'cha gotta do!
If you go in for some fairly minor warranty issue and there is no visable tuner, you proably will not be asked about it and it would be a non issue. However, if you have an engine failure or a tranny failure, supposedly, Ford has issued software to the dea;ers to scan the PCM for tracks of a tuner. hen, warranty could be denied. The existence of such software has been a debate by some. A service manager at a dealer told me that the software does exist and Ford requires the report before authorizing major warranty repairs. That is all I know, just what I have been told.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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If you go in for some fairly minor warranty issue and there is no visable tuner, you proably will not be asked about it and it would be a non issue. However, if you have an engine failure or a tranny failure, supposedly, Ford has issued software to the dea;ers to scan the PCM for tracks of a tuner. hen, warranty could be denied. The existence of such software has been a debate by some. A service manager at a dealer told me that the software does exist and Ford requires the report before authorizing major warranty repairs. That is all I know, just what I have been told.
I have an extended warranty from an independent company. I'm curious if they would still fix any issues should they arise. When I purchased the warranty the big selling point for me was the fact that Ford will only fix/repair something that went wrong that was out of the owners control. My extended warranty covers pretty much everthing so basically if I it up then they'll fix it no questions asked. I'll have to make a call tomorrow and find out a little more about this because a programmer is def on the horizon.
 

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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I have an extended warranty from an independent company. I'm curious if they would still fix any issues should they arise. When I purchased the warranty the big selling point for me was the fact that Ford will only fix/repair something that went wrong that was out of the owners control. My extended warranty covers pretty much everthing so basically if I it up then they'll fix it no questions asked. I'll have to make a call tomorrow and find out a little more about this because a programmer is def on the horizon.
I understand. Plus, with the 2009, the tuner may be more in the "luxury" class than it was for those of us that had the 2004-2006s that had horrible hesitation and just would not go. My truck was reflashed twice at the dealer with TSBs before I got my tuner. It was actually a little dangerous, they way it lagged when stepping on it.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I kind of like the edge especially since its mounted to the dash. Looks pretty sleek.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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I kind of like the edge especially since its mounted to the dash. Looks pretty sleek.
The Gryphon is the same hardware, just has the capability of being custom tuned.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Not that it's an 09 F-150 or anything, but we had a guy in here the other day with a 2007.5 Duramax with over 300k miles of towing heavy loads with 200k of those have been with Hypertech tuning. My 04 Lightning has 90K very hard miles and I've been programmed for the last 80K or so.

PS There is no reason to wait to program your vehicle it's totaly safe to program from day one. If you're interested in learning about the steps we took to program the 2009 F-150 and the testing we do please checkout http://www.hypertech.com/2009F150/
 
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