Is it safe to run a programmer for a long period of time?
Not that it's an 09 F-150 or anything, but we had a guy in here the other day with a 2007.5 Duramax with over 300k miles of towing heavy loads with 200k of those have been with Hypertech tuning. My 04 Lightning has 90K very hard miles
and I've been programmed for the last 80K or so.
PS There is no reason to wait to program your vehicle it's totaly safe to program from day one. If you're interested in learning about the steps we took to program the 2009 F-150 and the testing we do please checkout http://www.hypertech.com/2009F150/
and I've been programmed for the last 80K or so.PS There is no reason to wait to program your vehicle it's totaly safe to program from day one. If you're interested in learning about the steps we took to program the 2009 F-150 and the testing we do please checkout http://www.hypertech.com/2009F150/
Try it again I got emails from our host that there were some problems with our server last night. We're promised 99% up time I guess last night was that 1 percent they were talking about
Haha ok cool now it works. Nice looks pretty good I have heard good things about both Hypertech and Edge. Are there any differences between the two besides the Edge mounting on the dash? Which isn't a big deal for me at all.
No experience with hypertech so I am not saying anything bad but is it me or does anyone else think it is odd that the regular and premium tunes are nearly identical (1 HP and 0 ft-lbs) different. I would assume the premium could eek out some more power.
I know when I go from my 87 tow tune to my 93 performance tune on my gryphon I feel a considerable difference in how the power is applied, so I assumed it might be a little different.
Interesting to look into though. I would have a hard time giving up my gauges as I have become so used to having them there and knowing exactly what my truck is doing and feeling.
I know when I go from my 87 tow tune to my 93 performance tune on my gryphon I feel a considerable difference in how the power is applied, so I assumed it might be a little different.
Interesting to look into though. I would have a hard time giving up my gauges as I have become so used to having them there and knowing exactly what my truck is doing and feeling.
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No experience with hypertech so I am not saying anything bad but is it me or does anyone else think it is odd that the regular and premium tunes are nearly identical (1 HP and 0 ft-lbs) different. I would assume the premium could eek out some more power.
I know when I go from my 87 tow tune to my 93 performance tune on my gryphon I feel a considerable difference in how the power is applied, so I assumed it might be a little different.
Interesting to look into though. I would have a hard time giving up my gauges as I have become so used to having them there and knowing exactly what my truck is doing and feeling.
I know when I go from my 87 tow tune to my 93 performance tune on my gryphon I feel a considerable difference in how the power is applied, so I assumed it might be a little different.
Interesting to look into though. I would have a hard time giving up my gauges as I have become so used to having them there and knowing exactly what my truck is doing and feeling.
It really depends on the application, there are some vehicles where there is a greater difference in power between the regular and premium fuel tunes. For example the 08 4.7L Dodge Rams there is a 8 HP & 9 TQ difference between the regular and premium fuel tunes. On the 2004 F-150 there is a 5 HP & 3 TQ difference between regular and premium fuel. So as you can see it really varies by application. The good thing about the tunes for the 09 being so close is that you can run regular fuel and be close to maximum power.
difference is comparing canned tunes to custom tunes-i'd bet the deed to my house-be it vmp , troyer or php, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in gaions between 87 and 91 octane tunes...
There may be a significant difference between their gains for regular and premium fuels, but then I would suspect that their regular fuel tunes are not really optimized.
One thing Hypertech discovered while tuning the 5.4 3 valve in the 09 F-150 was the power the motor made was not limited by 87 octane. Now if the motor had an extra point of compression I'm sure you would see a huge difference in gains between the regular and premium fuel tunes. But that's not the case. The fact is you can get a 35 HP & 42 Ft-Lbs TQ increase all while running 87 octane with Hypertech's Max Energy.
Openclasspro,
There may be a significant difference between their gains for regular and premium fuels, but then I would suspect that their regular fuel tunes are not really optimized.
One thing Hypertech discovered while tuning the 5.4 3 valve in the 09 F-150 was the power the motor made was not limited by 87 octane. Now if the motor had an extra point of compression I'm sure you would see a huge difference in gains between the regular and premium fuel tunes. But that's not the case. The fact is you can get a 35 HP & 42 Ft-Lbs TQ increase all while running 87 octane with Hypertech's Max Energy.
There may be a significant difference between their gains for regular and premium fuels, but then I would suspect that their regular fuel tunes are not really optimized.
One thing Hypertech discovered while tuning the 5.4 3 valve in the 09 F-150 was the power the motor made was not limited by 87 octane. Now if the motor had an extra point of compression I'm sure you would see a huge difference in gains between the regular and premium fuel tunes. But that's not the case. The fact is you can get a 35 HP & 42 Ft-Lbs TQ increase all while running 87 octane with Hypertech's Max Energy.
Yea I too would like to know what setting would you need to be on to get better MPG and still a few gains.
There isn't a special fuel economy setting, but with the increased throttle response combined with the extra power you should be able to use less throttle than stock which should lead to a nice gain in fuel economy. This is really a good all around tune, no need to switch between different one. Just program it and go.
I am being as nice as possible, I just don't buy the hype. I am thankful for Hypertech's support as a vendor, but the promises and dyno results still make me skeptical, that's all. The no increase of power to go from 87 to 93 seems a bit odd to me. I still think everyone needs to do their own research and find what is best for them. Personally, I don't have an '09 but if I did I would be speaking to Bill and Corey at PHP and wait. Like I said, being nice and not negative is hard to do when you respectfully disagree so take my $0.02 for what they are worth.
I am being as nice as possible, I just don't buy the hype. I am thankful for Hypertech's support as a vendor, but the promises and dyno results still make me skeptical, that's all. The no increase of power to go from 87 to 93 seems a bit odd to me. I still think everyone needs to do their own research and find what is best for them. Personally, I don't have an '09 but if I did I would be speaking to Bill and Corey at PHP and wait. Like I said, being nice and not negative is hard to do when you respectfully disagree so take my $0.02 for what they are worth.
Since the regular octane fuel isn't what limits the power going to a higher octane premium fuel doesn't have the same affect as what you're expecting. And I must say that I agree with you when you say that everyone should do their own research, that is why Hypertech's products are backed by a 30 day money back guarantee. That way you can test out the programmer and see how it fits your needs.


