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Old May 29, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 3kgtSL91
it says 792 lbs and it is a 6.5' bed

Is that a typo? Just 792 lbs?

How much do you think your trailer weighs fully loaded?

If its over 6000 lbs, you're probably over the payload rating for your truck (assuming just 10% on hitch = 600 lbs + 180 lbs for the driver = 780lbs).


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Old May 29, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dbossman
Is that a typo? Just 792 lbs?

How much do you think your trailer weighs fully loaded?

If its over 6000 lbs, you're probably over the payload rating for your truck (assuming just 10% on hitch = 600 lbs + 180 lbs for the driver = 780lbs).


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unless we are talking about different things, but yeah i think that is it.
here i did snap a picture of the sticker:

i don't know much about towing but it is rated at 11100 lbs for towing so how can I be over that? I just don't know how all those figures work
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply.

The 11k pound "tow rating" is just about a lie for any Supercrew. At a minimum recommended tongue weight for bumper pull trailers of 10% of that 11k pound trailer, 1100 pounds puts you over your payload before you climb into the drivers seat. The 2009 Supercrew payload issue has been discussed at length here and over at another forum. It really is a shame Ford did not raise the GVWR on these trucks for 2009 when the weight went up by a few hundred pounds over similarly equipped 2008 models.

Payload is defined as GVWR minus everything that rests on the vehicle's suspension. So, the base truck, all fluids (7lb*36 gallons = 252 pounds alone!), passengers, any cargo in the truck bed, and any trailer hitch weight.

Not much you can do about things now because I doubt you want to trade in a $45k+ MSRP truck for a 3/4 ton truck. I highly recommend installing some air bags and replacing your tires with some that have a higher load rating.

BTW, that combo looks awesome, black platinum truck + black care hauler!
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 3kgtSL91
unless we are talking about different things, but yeah i think that is it.
here i did snap a picture of the sticker:

i don't know much about towing but it is rated at 11100 lbs for towing so how can I be over that? I just don't know how all those figures work
Ford has really done everyone a disservice. VERY few people understand the payload and towing related figures that are posted on their web site. And dont think you can ask your sales person for help. I've not found, or heard of one, that understands either.

What you need to understand is that Ford advertises the maximum "potential" ratings for payload and towing. To get the max payload and towing, you essentially have to have a stripped down truck. Every feature / option on your truck lowers the payload rating, which in turn lowers your towing capacity.

The SuperCrew starts at something like 1780 lbs max payload. But when you subtract all the options on your truck, you're down to 792 lbs. Frankly, that's not enough carry 5 adults as passengers.
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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792? My 06 FX4 Screw is 1457. Is that 792 correct?
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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What is really weird is that the front and rear axle ratings are so high. Total axle is 8050. That isn't bad at all. I know the GVW is 7,200 but I'd weigh the truck and see what it actually sits at. I've never seen a F-150 with a 4050 front axle rating either, that is very high. I've only seen 3850. If that is the case i don't know if I want to trade my truck for that, my door sticker is 1600 something. that is scary.
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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The sticker on my 09 XLT Screw 4x2 is 1,551 pounds. Plenty of capacity for most towing needs with a truck this size.
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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my 09 f150 Screw 4x4 5.5 lariet loaded with max tow has a sticker of 1186lbs.
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by v_tach
The sticker on my 09 XLT Screw 4x2 is 1,551 pounds. Plenty of capacity for most towing needs with a truck this size.
It appears the XLT's have pretty good payload ratings from what I have seen on various dealer lots.

The Lariats, KR's, and Platinums take a hit from the weight of the extra options they come with.
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 3kgtSL91
it says 792 lbs and it is a 6.5' bed
Wow thats the lowest i seen to date and i thought mine was low? 900lb. the only things i didnt get were the CMS and the skid plates. but they cant be 108lb it total???
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dbossman
It appears the XLT's have pretty good payload ratings from what I have seen on various dealer lots.
I purchased my truck primarily as a recreational tow vehicle. Load capacity was a big factor why I chose a 4x2 XLT.

4x4 is nice... if you need it. I don't need a 4x4 and didn't need the extra expense and weight.
 
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Old May 29, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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I pull my boat that sits on a tri-axle trailer. It is right around 10,000lbs when the fuel tank is full and the bar and refrigerator is full. I now pull it with my 2009 F-150 Lariat and it walks away from a dead stop with no problem at all. I take it down the road between 50 & 65mph and it pulls like a dream. Stopping is great too with the integrated brake controller. I put electric brakes on the trailer a few years ago and that made the biggest difference. Just my .02 worth. Thanks
 
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Old May 30, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by trk35
I pull my boat that sits on a tri-axle trailer. It is right around 10,000lbs when the fuel tank is full and the bar and refrigerator is full. I now pull it with my 2009 F-150 Lariat and it walks away from a dead stop with no problem at all. I take it down the road between 50 & 65mph and it pulls like a dream. Stopping is great too with the integrated brake controller. I put electric brakes on the trailer a few years ago and that made the biggest difference. Just my .02 worth. Thanks
That's good feedback. I have read lots of similar stories about how well the F150 does towing some pretty big loads. Seems to me it is far more capable than they have let on with some of the ratings (gvwr / payload).

FWIW, what does the sticker say on your door pillar for max payload?
 
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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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The door sticker on this 5.5 crew FX4 is 1188 capacity.
 
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Old May 30, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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so what are the consequences of going over the max payload rating?
 
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