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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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'09 Brake Pads?

Anyone swapped out thier brake pads (front specifically) on their '09 yet? Although the dust is nowhere near as bad as my '04 it's still more than I care for. Was calling around checking on pad availability and no one seems to have '09 parts database updated for the F150 yet... If anyone has any info I'd appreciate it. Looking for Wagner ThermoQuiets.

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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't change them unless they needed it. But the only ones out with '09 pads are...your local $tealer$hip!!! Just keep your fingers crossed and keep checking
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Check with Napa?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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Something to keep in mind..

Harder pads (dustless/metallic) are going to be much harder on the brake rotor and provide less pedal feel.

The dust sucks but pads are cheaper than rotors. My wifes BMW X3 dusts like a ***** but the braking is off the chain.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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napa does make a dust free brake pad for the 09

http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=ADO&PartNumber= AD7915&Description=Brake+Pads+-+Front%2c+Adaptive+One+-+Ceramic
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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nice responses....."don't change them unless they need them" and the myth "going to be harder on your rotors and less pedal feel"

They are dusty, so they do need changed! Like he said about his 04, they were bad. I changed my 04 pads after only 500 miles. I went with Porterfield R4-S carbon kevlar pads. Braking response was equal if not better than stock. No dust at all. And after 34k miles, my rotors were perfectly fine.

So instead of the bogus responses, why don't you guys actually provide some info on what brake pads to get?

I just ordered the same Porterfield pads for my new 09 truck, the dust isn't as bad, but enough to annoy me and I rather not see the dust at all on the nice 20" rims. The R4-S part number is AP1083 for the 09 F150 4x4 front pads. There's other 04-08 owners that are happy with their Porterfield pads too, search the 04-08 forum.

Paul, you got the info I gave you about where to get the Porterfields but I guess you're looking for something cheaper. Thermoquiets are good too, I put them on my wife's car once, and they didn't produce much dust but they did start to squeal some (even after trying to lube them with anti-squeal grease). but again, if you search the 04-08 forum, I know people are happy with Thermoquiets too.
 

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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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While my post is based on the brakes I run on my 07, it can offer you another view point. Akebono ceramics are another choice for low dust, quiet pads with good braking characteristics. I've got 63K on mine without any issues.

So, are 09s using the same part numbers for front pads as the previous trucks?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Napa has several pads listed on their web site, the semi-metallic and two ceramic pads should be great.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Ceramic pads are the way to go. Almost dust free, from my experience. I am looking to change them out on my 2009 Lariat because of the dust. Once I get back from vacation, a trip to my local NAPA store will be in order.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

Steve, I Emailed Jerry at BRV Racing and haven't heard back from him yet. I checked the website and there was no info for the '09 so I figured I'd ask around here on the forum for other suggestions. Based on your recommendations and assuming Jerry gets back to me (and has a competitive price), I'll be ordering the Porterfields. I can't take the brake dust anymore....washed my truck Sunday and drove it twice this week (~50-60 miles) and ran my finger across the fronts yesterday and they were black!

Thanks again.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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There are 2 general trade offs with ceramic pads. Their performance when cold, so the first few tops is not as good as a semi-metallic, and they retain their heat longer, so it often causes the rotors to warp if the rotors are not designed for higher temps.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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No disrespect please.....

Originally Posted by SteveVFX4
nice responses....."don't change them unless they need them" and the myth "going to be harder on your rotors and less pedal feel"

They are dusty, so they do need changed! Like he said about his 04, they were bad. I changed my 04 pads after only 500 miles. I went with Porterfield R4-S carbon kevlar pads. Braking response was equal if not better than stock. No dust at all. And after 34k miles, my rotors were perfectly fine.

So instead of the bogus responses, why don't you guys actually provide some info on what brake pads to get?

I just ordered the same Porterfield pads for my new 09 truck, the dust isn't as bad, but enough to annoy me and I rather not see the dust at all on the nice 20" rims. The R4-S part number is AP1083 for the 09 F150 4x4 front pads. There's other 04-08 owners that are happy with their Porterfield pads too, search the 04-08 forum.

Paul, you got the info I gave you about where to get the Porterfields but I guess you're looking for something cheaper. Thermoquiets are good too, I put them on my wife's car once, and they didn't produce much dust but they did start to squeal some (even after trying to lube them with anti-squeal grease). but again, if you search the 04-08 forum, I know people are happy with Thermoquiets too.
You cannot have better braking perormance with less dust and/or less rotor wear. If you want better stopping power- then that comes with the price of potentially more brake dust and more accelerated rotor wear. If you give up a degree of performance- then you can have less dust and less rotor wear.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too!I have been involved with racing for quite some time from SCCA to dirt track and I feel experienced enough to give the qualified remark that HARDER PADS DECREASE THE LIFE OF THE OEM ROTOR!
Talk to an expert and relate to them specifically what you are looking for. IF ANYONE tells you that any other pad is better or worse without relating to you the specifc pad to rotor applications then you are wasting your time. The initial question was "Has anyone swapped out the brake pads (front specifically) on their 09'?"
It is NOT a myth the the type of pad used in your breaking application can directly effect the wear and trueness of the rotor........
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Well it seems simple to me. Something has to wear down and if it ain't the pads it's the rotors. My Friends dad had a Street version 911 GT1 and that thing had ceramic brakes. It wouldn't stop for **** until the rotors were upto temp. I don't know if the ceramic pads are the same type used in that thing but are they really going to be hot enough to function at there full performance???
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by malexander52
You cannot have better braking perormance with less dust and/or less rotor wear. If you want better stopping power- then that comes with the price of potentially more brake dust and more accelerated rotor wear. If you give up a degree of performance- then you can have less dust and less rotor wear.
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hey, I'm just going by my own personal experience and the semi-metallic pads I bought from auto part stores, or even these semi-aggressive Porterfield carbon kevlar pads I had for 5 years on my last truck, I did NOT see an decrease in performance vs. stock, my rotors were perfectly fine, and I had no dust.

Maybe you are talking about super duper hard compound racing pads or something, but semi-performance street pads are perfectly fine to use!
 
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by malexander52
You cannot have better braking perormance with less dust and/or less rotor wear. If you want better stopping power- then that comes with the price of potentially more brake dust and more accelerated rotor wear. If you give up a degree of performance- then you can have less dust and less rotor wear.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too!I have been involved with racing for quite some time from SCCA to dirt track and I feel experienced enough to give the qualified remark that HARDER PADS DECREASE THE LIFE OF THE OEM ROTOR!
Talk to an expert and relate to them specifically what you are looking for. IF ANYONE tells you that any other pad is better or worse without relating to you the specifc pad to rotor applications then you are wasting your time. The initial question was "Has anyone swapped out the brake pads (front specifically) on their 09'?"
It is NOT a myth the the type of pad used in your breaking application can directly effect the wear and trueness of the rotor........
Not to start a war here...but I'd have to agree. I had a 2001 Lincoln LS Sport V8 and tried the Porterfield (street/not racing) aftermarket pads and they did as promised - less dust...but they were terrible pads for everyday driving. If I was driving agressively and keeping them hot all the time they would have been fine - but the trouble was - on short trips and everyday driving - they never would heat up enough to work as well as the stock pads. I tried everything with them and finally gave up and returned to stock after 5000 miles. Over the years I've found that when you go with aftermarket/non-OEM mods there is usually a gain AND a corresponding loss and with the Porterfields the convenience of less dust was not worth the decrease in braking effectiveness (for me anyway). If I had been autocrossing - it would have been an entirely different story as the Porterfields have an excellent reputation for holding up under heavy use with much less fade than the stock pads - trouble is you have to heat them up to get maximum braking effectiveness.

Funny this came up, as I have about 1200 miles on the Platinum now and was thinking that Ford must have used a slightly harder pad than what was stock on my '05 as I have seen less dust - but was also feeling that the brakes (while having much better pedal feel) don't feel quite as effective as my 05. Could be that they still need to "bed" against the rotors though - so I was going to wait a while before mentioning it...OR it could be the change in pedal feel that Ford made for the '09....
 

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