- Is our new 4.4L diesel really going to have considerably less tq than the the GM baby diesel?

- Is the Raptor 6.2L NA or DI?

- Why would Ford bring out a "380" hp 6.2L v8 and tell us to drive it up Toyota's azz, when there everyday big V8 at only 5.7L has 381 hp. Even a one report were we said we had 385, Still... big deal.

- GMs 6.2L Denail has what @ 400 and the 6.2 in the Tahoe and I'm assuming everything else for 09 has 385 right...

- Will the baby diesels from GM and Dodge/cummins also have this urea system...

 

The 6.2 is going to be N/A at first, then might get the Ecoboost treatment later
Toyota is making 381 hp with 4v heads and DOHC, the 6.2 Boss is supposed to be 2v SOHC...so the potential is definately there for massive power if it starts out at 380/425 or whatever the numbers are.

 

The Ford exec said he (not we) would drive it up Toyota's ***. Also, see here: "...the production should be closer to 420 horsepower." http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-sho...o-dealers.html In addition, that Raptor is really cool and the Toyota is a cheap junk truck so I'm sure he will have no problem driving it up Turda's...

 

I hope the diesel option in all of the half-ton trucks is geared more towards economy, and maintains similar towing capability to the gas engine counterparts.

If these 'baby diesels' are making 500+ lb/ft they will be on par with what the Duramax LB7 had when it debuted (520) or the last model of the 7.3L Powerstoke (525). This is all fine and dandy, but there are so many other areas of a truck that will need to be upgraded to handle this extra torque. The F150 is the only half-ton available with a rear axle that should be up to the task (assuming they use the 10.5" axle from the 7-lug edition), and I know the frame technology has been improved even further with the 2009+ F150s. The IFS may need some tweaking in order to handle the load... although Chevy can simply pull the 9.25" IFS unit from its 2500hd and 3500hd trucks and put it in place of the current 8.25" unit. If all of these upgrades need to be made in order to handle that torque and beef up the trucks, we are going to end up with 3/4 ton trucks that have been re-skinned to look like the 1/2 ton models.

This is why I feel that the diesels should be geared more towards economy in the 1/2 ton trucks, with torque in the 350-400 lb/ft range. This is still ample torque to tow as well as the gasoline V-8's currently in place, but should be mild enough to achieve in the neighborhood of 18-20mpg. My Dad had an old Chevy half-ton with the 6.2L diesel, and he consistantly saw 27mpg in the truck, with 30mpg on occasion. It may not be much of a threat for today's diesels in terms of power, torque or towing, but it could hold its own against any other small block equiped 1/2 ton of its day. This is sort of the hope I have for the up and coming 1/2 ton diesels. Make them good on fuel, and about the same as the gassers for capability. There will always be 3/4 ton and 1 ton pickups with big diesels if you need to get the job done.