I'd love to be one of the very first. Oh, wait. What did you say the engine numbers were again? Oh wait, Ford didn't...

With the stock market so bad, not sure if it's wise of me to sell any of my stocks to buy a new truck. What bad timing.

I absolutely refuse to let my 401k suffer to buy a new truck, so it's really up to the stock market. I refuse to do another vehicle loan, I've owned my '04 for years now, and have zero debt. I will not incur debt again, and won't hurt my 401k by spending money on a truck rather than my retirement. So that leaves my stocks. Come on market, get back on your feet again. It's all up to you!

Does the stock market allow me to purchase an '09, or does it force me to wait until the next remodel?

But would I buy one barring any of these monetary factors? If I had 'money to burn'? Yes, absolutely.

 

Again, the diesels offered currently (like the 250's) are overkill for pulling only 6,000 lbs, mainly in cost but also in performance considering that I do not pull more then that weight; and I don't plan on supercharging my truck for both cost and longevity reasons. Yet my current 5.4L is just short of having the right amount of umph to take the pass safely and comfortably. More horsepower would do the F150 right in my situation, which surely is a fact that you wouldn't deny.

Preferring more horsepower out of the next generation of F150 engines from Ford isn't unreasonable, no matter how much you portray it to be so. Nor does it mean that such a request is not necessary just because you think I should just 'get a 250' to pull 6000 lbs, especially considering that the current F150's 5.4L is just a touch short from being perfect for my situation in the first place.

Next time, you should get your facts straight before you post

 

Well, lets look at it this way yee wise one, what did a 1/2 ton truck weigh from yester year? What do they weight today? Let's take the biggest engine from say.....a 78 Ford and install it in the truck we have today. What do you think is going to tow more effeciently? ( by that I mean mileage and power #'s ) Basically the old *00 hp 1/2 ton truck isn't going to get the job done when the truck itself weighs in at close to 6k lbs. ( maybe that's why Ford dropped the V6 as an engine option? )

Your right, the trucks of yesteryear could handle the loads. But would you give up the creature comforts of your SD that you have today?

Frankly, do you think Ford and any other manufacturer gives a hoot about what we "say"? As long as those high power #'s brings the customers in the showroom, that's all that matters.

Much like your "hauling groceries" comment, you dreamt this up all on your own.....

And you know how many miles I drive a year how?.........If you are looking for a pat on the back for your yearly mileage than here it is.....

And your probably the old man that takes an hour to drive thru the intersection. See how easy it is to ***-u-me things?

First off, I don't see why you are bringing the 6.0L into this. It has nothing to do with this. Hey, that's great, you had good luck with your 6.0L's. Much like alot of guys had great luck with their Duramax's or Cummins, you get where I'm going with this?

Ah, that's no fair, GM has 2 of the same trucks just with different front ends and tailgates. But wait, they are both under the same manufacturer. You can easily class Lincoln into this because it's the exact same situation. And they are both being outsold by GM.

NEWSFLASH:

The combination of ALL the F-SERIES are the sales #'s that get released. Same story with Dodge and GM. Ford is still outsold by GM

Oh Oh, sounds like someone is getting bitter...

Yep, the direct competitor conducting tests on it's competition and we are to believe that there is no biasness in the testing? Burger King called, they said the Whopper is the best burger out there.....

Funny thing is, I have posted 3rd party testing of the Tundra alongside the competitors, Ford included, and the test didn't fair well for Ford. And the excuses I heard are much like the ones you just said in the above quote. With the exception of, " who needs a fast truck" and " my truck stops just fine with 10000K behind it" ( even though the competition could do it better )

The diehards just keep harping back on the infamous "bedbounce" video yet they are the first to discredit the numerous vids of the Tundra dragging the F150 around a parking lot. ( Probably because the test was conducted at a Toyota dealership )

 

I have a 2007 F-150 and the lease is up at the start of 2010.I would definatly consider getting a 2010 F-150.

Later Mark.

 

Recently purchased a 2007 F-150 King Ranch Screw with the 5.4 package. Could have waited for the 09 model but heard from good Ford sources that the power plants would not change until the 2010 or 11 years but the six speed auto would be offered on some models.

The discounts were so deep that I went ahead and made a new purchase. If I want more power then, I will purchase a Stage 2 Troyer package and end up with around 65 more horses and maybe a mile or two increase in mileage. All new vehicles will have substantial issues for at least the first couple of years - in the 01 to 03 Screws, for instance, the moon roofs were not reliable, and some spark plug issues presented them selves because of the three or four threads holding them. So, my method of buying usually is economics, about every seven to ten years I can afford to purchase another new truck. Which usually puts me toward the end of the model years -- the good thing is that all of the worms are usually worked out by this time.

There has been a lot of discussion about the reserection of the Boss engines which became popular in the sixties and seventies in the Mustangs. They had lots of torque and were fast but not very fuel efficient - would be fun to have a truck with a stock 400 + HP engine.

Anyway just a couple of cents worth of my thoughts on why I made my purchase now.

 

A 2010 flame blue with diesel or 6.2, 6 speed, crew cab, tbc, rear camera, tailgate step, stowable bed extender, sony stereo, Sync and nav. It will be mine. Oh yes. It will be mine.

 

HAHAHA After much thought I deleted my LONG list of future mods from my computer and set a budget on my truck for the next couple years. Im saving up until 2010 for those eco boost engines. Im sick of trying to make my STX "driveable" and up to my standards. Im getting a 4x4 XLT or FX4 with eco boost.

New Future Mods:
Bilstien 5100 all around
Detail truck
Have upholstry cleaned
Drive my Sable more and my F150 less, and keep my truck in the best condition I can until 2010.

 

And those retards who did that commercial put a XLT F150 with the 4x4 turned to 2wd against a 6 speed 4x4 Tundra. So 1WD (Non limited slip) most likely 3.73 against a 6 speed 4x4 Tundra with 4:10's. Newsflash, turn the 4x4 on and get a F150 with limited slip in front and back. Im sure it would be more fair. And what do you expect when you put a BRAND NEW fully redesigned truck up against a 3 year old truck. Analogy: Roided up young guy and a old guy who just takes protien get into a fight... who would win. haha bad anolgy.

 

Sorry I put "Dear Smiggs" at the head of my initial post. Oh, wait... and I'm pretty sure if your mouth was taped shut, I couldn't win an argument with you. You'd still have all the answers. In fact, I think you might have have them before I asked the questions. You win...

The Tundra pulling an F-150 backwards is the sure sign of power.

I do take an hour to drive through an intersection. Fact is, I started typing this response to you last week just so I could post it in a timely manner. Thanks to Viagra, I had a sixth finger at the keyboard, or you'd be seeing this next week.

Thanks for the pat on the back. It helped dislodge some phlem.

And, I did just hear that "The best selling truck for over 30 years" was going to be retracted. It was a typo by the printer for the last 30 years. Somehow, it made it to the Oval brochures and TV ads, but it was all just smoke and mirrors. And to think I only bought one to have the best. Yes, Smiggs, I am a fool. I don't think I'll be able to bear it when they say GM has been the best. I'm just glad they'll follow it up with a footnote that says "We pride ourselves on quantity, not quality".

 

You are the one who is turning this into a competition.

If that's the case, your a sore loser at best....

Which wasn't the point I was trying to make.....so close yet so far away.

Your sarcasm is noted. Care to share any facts worth 2 s**ts? Naw, probably not, cue the insults.

Would you like some cheese for your whine? < violin playing in background >

It's not surprising that you have obviously overlooked some the the facts I have stated to you and just took everything personally. Good job!

 

Smiggs,

I get your posts, and I agree, the 123,158 trucks Ford fell short of in 2007 (in comparison to the GM total) is in fact second place – no award there, unless picking up the horses crap is an award. It is interesting that this GM “year total sales” is never really expounded upon in the real world (and really, no sarcasm here) to promote how they actually sell more trucks. What is the psyche there? Just asking - why don't they advertise this? I sure would if I were the clear winner and was in this competition between manufacturers. Really, why. Again, not being sarcastic.

I wonder what the numbers would be like if Ford actually had another line of “pigs with different lipstick” as I said before. Let’s face it, the GMC and Chevy are basically rebadged and get different grilles – or they used to be, at least. The Lincoln Mark LT was always a higher end model, like the Denali, which I am sure, is still in GM’s yearly figures as well. To be fair, what if GM has a different line of HD trucks like Ford? It all could get interesting.

Oh, for the record, I am dyed in the wool Ford, but am open to any manufacturer. I'll gladly drive a GM if I like it, and wouldn't evere rule them out. Dodge, well, ask me next week. Every year I get a new truck, I always get the better deal from my buddy who owns several Ford dealers. So I return - not to mention my excellent record with Fords. My other friend just got a new GMC 2500HD. I'm dying to see it. Maybe that'll be the final straw.

 

I will buy the diesel in 2010.

 

Who knows. I really don't see the logic in having two of the same type of vehicles under the same manufacturer. More of a choice?

On the flip side, I wonder what the sales #'s would be like for the Silverado line if there was no GMC truck?

I'm thinking with the Denali you step up to the 6.0L and 6 speed along with the interior goodies. But with the LT, you don't have any drivetrain options like this. Just the same 5.4 and 4 speed as everyone else. ( I know this was the case at one time....)

Right on. I'm partial to Ford out of all makes. ( trucks ) But I'm not blind to the fact that there are other good products out there by other manufacturers. I know that new Dodge Ram might be sitting in my driveway come it's release date.

 

I'm with you, I got zero percent financing on my 2004 Lincoln Aviator. The vehicle is in mint condition with only 35,000 miles on it. I financed it for five years through Ford Motor Credit. Zero percent financing is the greatest thing ever... if you qualify for it.

 

Got 0% financing on my 03 Explorer...and it's paid off now. Best I could get on my 08 F250 was 3.9% at the time...that's the price you pay for buying something when it is new.