There will be many people who will line up for a mere chance to buy a diesel f150, and I'm one of them, and I don't haul, tow, or even need one for the classic diesel uses. I want one because they last longer than gas engines, are more fuel efficient, and they **** off treehuggers.

 

according to the latest article the 4.4L will produce 330HP/515TQ and get 20-25MPG

 

Very respectable.

 

Saweet!!

 

where did you get that? if that's correct and the price of diesel goes down a smudge then you could be looking at one of the most significant innovations in truck history

20-25 mpg is damn good for something that weighs a crap load

 

the power ratings are in the first article I posted, the MPG #'s are in the second.

 

If they can make a diesel F150 that gets 25mpg I think I will be trading my 05 in.

 

Me too!! I will wait until after the first model year and the bugs are hopefully worked out and then buy one. So that means I will have try and hold off buying a truck for 2-3 more years , that might be kinda tough......

 

Absolutely, If I could get a truck just like mine that gets 20-25 mpg, then I would be waiting at the dealers door for them to open to get mine. That would ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

x2 here... but my truck has been averaging 20 mpg... mostly city and a very light foot.

 

You also have a v6 manual 2x4. For those of us that have a scab, or screw with the 5.4 and 4x4 we are lucky to see 16mpg. My personal best was 17.2 and that was on the interstate a lot. If the diesel comes out and edge has a programmer for that then 25+mpg is very possible. The PowerStrokes, and the Cummins (sorry) can see over 20mpg with a programmer.

 

Have you seen the cost of the diesel programmers? Way over $500, plus the added cost of the engine 3-5000, plus the added cost of diesel fuel. You aren't saving any $$ IMO.

 

Actually there are a few programmers that are under the $500, and one that I can think of it right around $350. As for the added cost of diesel fuel, right now it is $0.20/gallon more than reg unleaded here. So it costs about 7% more to fuel up with diesel. But if the new diesel will get even 20 mpg in a 4WD SC or Screw vs 16 that they get now. That is a 20% jump in mileage or more if the truck gets better mileage. So you are actually money ahead with a diesel, fuel wise, if (notice I said if) the mileage claims of 20+mpg that we could see out of the new motor are true.

For those of us that pull trailers alot, but not enough to justify a F250 PSD, a little 4.4L diesel(or what ever size they go with) is just the ticket. And when not pulling anything, the extra MPG is just an added bonus

 

I agree that if you pull a trailer etc it would be worth the investment of the diesel. But I've seen some people just buy a powerstroke just for the "macho" feeling it gives them. I have a 4x4 xlt scab and at 6000ft I'm getting 15.4 mpg. Thats with an edge evolution, volant and magnaflow. I don't baby the throttle but I don't lean on it either. The tuner,volant and exhaust were bought to increase performance, not to help with mpg.

 

Driven to Diesels
Powerplants boost fuel economy in light-duty trucks
Jul 02, 2007
Automotive News


The Detroit Three are racing to install fuel-saving diesel engines in their U.S. light trucks. Nissan and Toyota may be in the race, too. Diesels are common in domestic brands' heavy-duty pickups. But fuel economy concerns and competitive pressures are prompting automakers to put them in light-duty trucks as well.

In 2009, Ford Motor Co. likely will be first to market when it puts a diesel in the F-150 pickup. Last month General Motors became the last of the Detroit 3 to commit to using a diesel in its U.S. light trucks.

News reports indicate that Nissan plans a diesel for its Titan pickup. Toyota officials have said they are exploring a diesel for the Tundra pickup.


Here come the diesels
Light-duty diesels in the pipeline
Ford: 4.4-liter turbocharged V-8 for F-150 and possibly Expedition in 2009
Dodge: 4.2-liter turbocharged V-6 for Ram 1500 in 2010
GM: 4.5-liter turbocharged V-8 for Silverado/Sierra pickups and Hummer H2 in 2010
Nissan: Iffy. May use V-6 or V-8 diesel in Titan pickup from International Truck and Engine Corp. around 2010.
Toyota: Iffy. Working with Isuzu to develop diesels. Diesel for Tundra might come from truck affiliate Hino in 2010, at the earliest.


Diesel engines, which boost fuel economy by 25 to 30 percent, can't get here soon enough for dealers who sell trucks. Diesels also attract customers because they can tow heavier loads and have higher resale value.

"That's what people have been waiting for," says Shaun Laird, new-truck sales manager at Hummer of Orlando in Altamonte Springs, Fla. "They'll want the diesel engine for both the added towing capability and the fuel economy."

Better mpg

For example, a Dodge Ram 1500 pickup with a diesel should improve its fuel economy from 15 mpg city/19 highway to 19.5 city and nearly 25 mpg highway. A diesel-powered Hummer H2 could get around 16 mpg or higher in highway driving. GM estimates the gasoline-powered version gets 13 to 14 mpg in a combination of city and highway driving.

GM plans to add a 4.5-liter turbocharged V-8 diesel engine to the H2 and light-duty versions of the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups.

The new engine will be a Duramax, but it will not share any parts with the current 6.6-liter Duramax that GM developed with Isuzu. GM says the new turbodiesel will produce at least 310 hp and 520 pounds-feet of torque and will be made in its Tonawanda, N.Y., plant, which is getting a $100 million makeover.

The engine will fit in the same space as the current gasoline small-block V-8. And, GM says, it could be used in other vehicles.

Nissan, Toyota diesels?

Nissan also appears to be gearing up for a diesel in its Titan. Japan's Nikkan Kogyo Shimbun newspaper recently reported that Nissan will use a diesel engine made by Ford's longtime diesel supplier, International Truck and Engine Corp. International and Nissan officials would not confirm the report.

Nissan spokesman Fred Standish says the company is considering a diesel engine for the Titan.

"If we determine there is a good business case for it, just like any other vehicle, we'll do it," he said. "It's pretty simple."

International's relations with Ford have been strained by a lawsuit and wrangling over price, quality and warranty issues. International is eager to do business with another automaker.

Spokesman Roy Wiley says International has two diesel engines ready to supply and is talking with other automakers. But he would not confirm a deal with Nissan.

"We have a V-6 that we have developed and a V-8, too," Wiley says. "It depends on where they want to put it, but we could get that in a vehicle in less than two years."

Toyota officials have said they want to make a diesel optional in the new full-sized Tundra pickup. Toyota has not said when a diesel would be available or who would build it, but the company is collaborating with Isuzu on diesels. Toyota also could use a diesel from its truckmaking affiliate, Hino Motors Ltd.