04 FX4 Frame Blues
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04 FX4 Frame Blues
Well all my hopes and dreams of driving my truck seem to be coming to an abrupt end. Had it in for an oil change, when the mechanic tells me that I have a rust hole in my frame. The silence after the statement gave me a clue that it wasn't a small hole. I knew I shouldn't have looked at the 2015 F150 Pictures!
After looking, I was taken back. Almost the entire length of the frame next to the gas tank is rusted through, maybe as high as 3/4 of an inch. The northeast Ohio salt filled winters did their worst I guess.
Now is there hope? Other than replacing the entire frame? I know you can weld and patch a frame, but all bets are off with structural integrity and resale. Although both are gone with the rust now I am guessing. Hopefully there is material so that I can make a repair...
I am going to call Ford, just for the fun of it. Any suggestions are appreciated. In lieu of flowers, please contribute to Rob's 2015 F150 Fund.
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After looking, I was taken back. Almost the entire length of the frame next to the gas tank is rusted through, maybe as high as 3/4 of an inch. The northeast Ohio salt filled winters did their worst I guess.
Now is there hope? Other than replacing the entire frame? I know you can weld and patch a frame, but all bets are off with structural integrity and resale. Although both are gone with the rust now I am guessing. Hopefully there is material so that I can make a repair...
I am going to call Ford, just for the fun of it. Any suggestions are appreciated. In lieu of flowers, please contribute to Rob's 2015 F150 Fund.
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I've never seen anything like that on a frame before! That sucks man, I live in South Carolina so we don't have to bad of winters other than ice but I always do a good hose down after visiting the beach. I hate for anyone to have that rust on their frame. Hope ford will contribute to your fund.
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I remember a few years ago Toyota had a recall on the Tacoma for the frames rusting out. This was around 2009-2010 for model years 96-2004. Basically, they asked owners to bring in their truck so they could inspect and test the frame for rust damage. I owned a 2001 at the time so I took mine in after receiving a letter. They tested the frame with a punch and a hammer and if the punch penetrated the frame they would buy the trucks back for a certain amount above blue book value. I don't remember the requirements/stipulations of this, but there was nothing wrong with the frame on my truck and they coated the frame as a precaution. Hopefully Ford will be of some help to remedy the situation. Best of luck.
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Beautiful truck there .....
That is some down right seriously scary looking rust though ....
If it was just a "section" and detailed examination revealed that the rest of it was good, that for whatever reason this was the only ravaged area .... I'ld drop the tank and box it well beyond the rust both ways or set it up with blocking and replace that section.
That is some down right seriously scary looking rust though ....
If it was just a "section" and detailed examination revealed that the rest of it was good, that for whatever reason this was the only ravaged area .... I'ld drop the tank and box it well beyond the rust both ways or set it up with blocking and replace that section.
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I am going to call Ford tomorrow morning with my fingers crossed. Although them buying my truck still suck, cause then I will be paying for another one. Ugh
Did some research and worst case I am going to MIG weld a patch in place. Maybe a piece of channel the same height at the frame. Not sure. Remainder of the frame is going to be treated with POR15 for sure.
Keep everyone posted. Thanks for all the info and support.
Did some research and worst case I am going to MIG weld a patch in place. Maybe a piece of channel the same height at the frame. Not sure. Remainder of the frame is going to be treated with POR15 for sure.
Keep everyone posted. Thanks for all the info and support.
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I remember a few years ago Toyota had a recall on the Tacoma for the frames rusting out. This was around 2009-2010 for model years 96-2004. Basically, they asked owners to bring in their truck so they could inspect and test the frame for rust damage. I owned a 2001 at the time so I took mine in after receiving a letter. They tested the frame with a punch and a hammer and if the punch penetrated the frame they would buy the trucks back for a certain amount above blue book value. I don't remember the requirements/stipulations of this, but there was nothing wrong with the frame on my truck and they coated the frame as a precaution. Hopefully Ford will be of some help to remedy the situation. Best of luck.
Getting back to your truck, that really sucks, but my 2005 F-150 had one hell of a case of frame rust when I sold it. It too was caused by road salt. But I believe Ford changed something in their frame finishing process to cause this. None of my other Ford truck frames rusted nearly as bad or as quickly.
As for your chances of Ford doing something about it, don't waste your time. I will personally guarantee you that they won't do anything. Well, they might laugh.
Oh and by the way, you can have that frame section repaired quite easily.
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Well all my hopes and dreams of driving my truck seem to be coming to an abrupt end. Had it in for an oil change, when the mechanic tells me that I have a rust hole in my frame. The silence after the statement gave me a clue that it wasn't a small hole. I knew I shouldn't have looked at the 2015 F150 Pictures!
After looking, I was taken back. Almost the entire length of the frame next to the gas tank is rusted through, maybe as high as 3/4 of an inch. The northeast Ohio salt filled winters did their worst I guess.
Now is there hope? Other than replacing the entire frame? I know you can weld and patch a frame, but all bets are off with structural integrity and resale. Although both are gone with the rust now I am guessing. Hopefully there is material so that I can make a repair...
I am going to call Ford, just for the fun of it. Any suggestions are appreciated. In lieu of flowers, please contribute to Rob's 2015 F150 Fund.
Pictures:
After looking, I was taken back. Almost the entire length of the frame next to the gas tank is rusted through, maybe as high as 3/4 of an inch. The northeast Ohio salt filled winters did their worst I guess.
Now is there hope? Other than replacing the entire frame? I know you can weld and patch a frame, but all bets are off with structural integrity and resale. Although both are gone with the rust now I am guessing. Hopefully there is material so that I can make a repair...
I am going to call Ford, just for the fun of it. Any suggestions are appreciated. In lieu of flowers, please contribute to Rob's 2015 F150 Fund.
Pictures:
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Talked with Ford, they basically added my "situation" to the log and if something comes of it they will contact me. If I have it repaired, save my receipt for a refund... Love it.
I agree with the repair comments, I am thinking it will not be a big deal to repair, just drop the tank and replace the damaged metal. Treat the repair and rest of the frame to a healthy does of POR15. Just need Project time before the snow flies!
Yes, Northeast Ohio's salty winters eat everything in sight! LOL
I agree with the repair comments, I am thinking it will not be a big deal to repair, just drop the tank and replace the damaged metal. Treat the repair and rest of the frame to a healthy does of POR15. Just need Project time before the snow flies!
Yes, Northeast Ohio's salty winters eat everything in sight! LOL
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Thank God for the fully-boxed frame is all I've got to say. Given that Ohio isn't exactly the Arctic Circle, I'm thinking the frame on the truck probably wasn't coated as well as newer trucks in this body style, as one poster previously pointed out. That said, I think that's a fixable issue.