Dreaded spark plug change on 2007 5.4L
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Dreaded spark plug change on 2007 5.4L
Hello everyone,
The time has come to change the spark plugs on my 2007 5.4L as the truck has developed a slight miss. It's especially apparent when the truck gears down from 4th to 3rd. No codes thrown, but the truck is nearing 100k miles and from what I've read on here as well as other sites all signs point to spark plugs.
That said, I've ordered the lisle extraction tool, necessary spark plug socket and the Motorcraft SP-515 spark plugs. My garage is pretty well equipped with air tools and I've watched several videos of guys carrying out what some claim to be a daunting task. I've heard that the plugs are a little less likely to break off if the engine is still warm from recently running. If anyone can speak to the validity of this or has any other tips it would be greatly appreciated.
The time has come to change the spark plugs on my 2007 5.4L as the truck has developed a slight miss. It's especially apparent when the truck gears down from 4th to 3rd. No codes thrown, but the truck is nearing 100k miles and from what I've read on here as well as other sites all signs point to spark plugs.
That said, I've ordered the lisle extraction tool, necessary spark plug socket and the Motorcraft SP-515 spark plugs. My garage is pretty well equipped with air tools and I've watched several videos of guys carrying out what some claim to be a daunting task. I've heard that the plugs are a little less likely to break off if the engine is still warm from recently running. If anyone can speak to the validity of this or has any other tips it would be greatly appreciated.
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Search this site for the procedures for soaking with carb cleaner and then trying to turn them out. All that did not do me much good when I had cam phaser and lifter replacement under original warranty - 4 plugs broke off. At 98,000 miles engine stalled, had it towed in, dealer diagnosed plug misfire and replaced plugs - 5 broke. 40 miles later engine died totally due to burned valves and warped head. Replaced engine with Ford reman engine for lots of $$$. These POS plugs and this POS engine have been a nightmare. Did Ford ever do a recall on all the design and engineering flaws -No! Ford will never have me as a customer again. By the way I have those 8 plugs with only 40 miles on them if anybody would like to buy them.
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Search this site for the procedures for soaking with carb cleaner and then trying to turn them out. All that did not do me much good when I had cam phaser and lifter replacement under original warranty - 4 plugs broke off. At 98,000 miles engine stalled, had it towed in, dealer diagnosed plug misfire and replaced plugs - 5 broke. 40 miles later engine died totally due to burned valves and warped head. Replaced engine with Ford reman engine for lots of $$$. These POS plugs and this POS engine have been a nightmare. Did Ford ever do a recall on all the design and engineering flaws -No! Ford will never have me as a customer again. By the way I have those 8 plugs with only 40 miles on them if anybody would like to buy them.
sorry OP I've did both methods left them soak and also warmed up method. Its a crap shoot, either way. Only thing I can say is work the plugs back and forth 1/4 turn each way until the plug comes out. As long as the plug is screeching while coming out all is good, usually when it quits making noise it probably broke... Lol
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Search this site for the procedures for soaking with carb cleaner and then trying to turn them out. All that did not do me much good when I had cam phaser and lifter replacement under original warranty - 4 plugs broke off. At 98,000 miles engine stalled, had it towed in, dealer diagnosed plug misfire and replaced plugs - 5 broke. 40 miles later engine died totally due to burned valves and warped head. Replaced engine with Ford reman engine for lots of $$$. These POS plugs and this POS engine have been a nightmare. Did Ford ever do a recall on all the design and engineering flaws -No! Ford will never have me as a customer again. By the way I have those 8 plugs with only 40 miles on them if anybody would like to buy them.
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Thanks for the input guys. I'd always seen/heard the 100,000 miles standard. I would have done the change sooner but I bought the truck only about 10k miles ago. Truck ran fine until around a month ago when the miss began. Other than this situation, I couldn't be more pleased with the performance. I do agree with most people in that ford should have done a recall on these trucks. After all, it seems they did make an improved version of the motor craft spark plug when it was clear the original sp-507 was faulty. Appreciate the help, wish me luck!
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I would consider an engine dying being a safety issue as well. Plugs breaking during removal does not cause an engine to die.
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Originally Posted by bogman
Search this site for the procedures for soaking with carb cleaner and then trying to turn them out. All that did not do me much good when I had cam phaser and lifter replacement under original warranty - 4 plugs broke off. At 98,000 miles engine stalled, had it towed in, dealer diagnosed plug misfire and replaced plugs - 5 broke. 40 miles later engine died totally due to burned valves and warped head. Replaced engine with Ford reman engine for lots of $$$. These POS plugs and this POS engine have been a nightmare. Did Ford ever do a recall on all the design and engineering flaws -No! Ford will never have me as a customer again. By the way I have those 8 plugs with only 40 miles on them if anybody would like to buy them.
Originally Posted by bogman
Ford did a recall for the pad in the right rear fender which was not a safety issue but a rust issue. Only recall I have had in 10 years. I consider an engine dying at highway speed and having to wrestle it to the roadside to be a safety issue.
True, motor vehicles are far more reliable today than ever before, but they are still man made and components can fail and do so with out warning (which is why I tend to "drive" with my mind on the task and conditions arouind me rather than allowing myself to become distracted).
Last edited by tbear853; 05-02-2014 at 12:06 PM.
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I know the plugs and phaser guides aren't the best.
Are you one of the guys that signed that dam* petition to get Ford to recall every 11th gen out there?
If you're aren't happy go buy a government motor or fiat, and quite trolling the forum
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Lol, rotten performance from the engine. YGBSM. Rotten 5.4L that's been (in one form or another) around since '97 and has been a solid platform ever since. Sure, there's been a few hiccups (spark plug blowout, cam phasers) but nothing that typically grenades the engine. Sometimes an engine just lets go or has a catastrophic failure, but it's not indicative of a bad engine design in this instance.