Black box - Factory installed GPS
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Black box - Factory installed GPS
Hey All,
I have read that all the new vehicles are going to be loaded with some type of GPS in a black or silver box from the factory to track your movement if big brother wants to know where you have been or currently going. I want to know if the 2006 F150 has this and if so, the location and will the truck still run if it's removed or how to bypass it?
I think this is an invasion of privacy to the max and want to remove it from my truck if it has one. I appreciate your help.
I have read that all the new vehicles are going to be loaded with some type of GPS in a black or silver box from the factory to track your movement if big brother wants to know where you have been or currently going. I want to know if the 2006 F150 has this and if so, the location and will the truck still run if it's removed or how to bypass it?
I think this is an invasion of privacy to the max and want to remove it from my truck if it has one. I appreciate your help.
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Track as far as GPS, not to my knowledge. They do monitor such things as speed, braking, and other things like air bag deployment etc.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...s-edr/1566098/
Last month, the federal government proposed that all new passenger vehicles be equipped with the devices. But 96% of new cars already have them, as do at least 150 million older vehicles. American makers, led by GM and Ford, have been putting them in cars since the mid-1990s.
http://jalopnik.com/5966628/everythi...-your-next-car
GM was the pioneer here, starting to install them in the late '90s, and by 2005 a number of marques (GM, Ford, Isuzu, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru and Suzuki) were putting them on everything. According to the NHTSA, about 91.6% of cars currently have them. Here's a list. Notable exceptions are Audi and Mercedes-Benz, but this new law will change that.
While more data can be recorded based on manufacturers' own desires, these are the 15 data points that would be required by the new law— well, this list has 17, so maybe there's a couple others:
Change in forward crash speed
Maximum change in forward crash speed
Time from beginning of crash at which the maximum change in forward crash speed occurs
Speed vehicle was traveling
Percentage of engine throttle, percentage full (how far the accelerator pedal was pressed)
Whether or not brake was applied
Ignition cycle (number of power cycles applied to the EDR) at the time of the crash
Ignition cycle (number of power cycles applied to the EDR) when the EDR data were downloaded
Whether or not driver was using safety belt
Whether or not frontal airbag warning lamp was on
Driver frontal airbag deployment: time to deploy for a single stage airbag, or time to first stage deployment for a multistage airbag
Right front passenger frontal airbag deployment: time to deploy for a single stage airbag, or time to first stage deployment for a multistage airbag
Number of crash events
Time between first two crash events, if applicable
Whether or not EDR completed recording
Change in forward crash speed
Maximum change in forward crash speed
Time from beginning of crash at which the maximum change in forward crash speed occurs
Speed vehicle was traveling
Percentage of engine throttle, percentage full (how far the accelerator pedal was pressed)
Whether or not brake was applied
Ignition cycle (number of power cycles applied to the EDR) at the time of the crash
Ignition cycle (number of power cycles applied to the EDR) when the EDR data were downloaded
Whether or not driver was using safety belt
Whether or not frontal airbag warning lamp was on
Driver frontal airbag deployment: time to deploy for a single stage airbag, or time to first stage deployment for a multistage airbag
Right front passenger frontal airbag deployment: time to deploy for a single stage airbag, or time to first stage deployment for a multistage airbag
Number of crash events
Time between first two crash events, if applicable
Whether or not EDR completed recording
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Auto black box in a 2006. More than likely. Ford and GM have been using them since the 90s. There are mandated as of 2012.
Track as far as GPS, not to my knowledge. They do monitor such things as speed, braking, and other things like air bag deployment etc.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...s-edr/1566098/
http://jalopnik.com/5966628/everythi...-your-next-car
Track as far as GPS, not to my knowledge. They do monitor such things as speed, braking, and other things like air bag deployment etc.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...s-edr/1566098/
http://jalopnik.com/5966628/everythi...-your-next-car
not tied into a gps satellite....
have to use a cable plus the correct software to extract info...
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Now if it has something like Lo-Jack, that is a different story, it can be tracked.
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The RCM (Restraint Control Module) has been there a long time before 2006, it monitors input and records to over and over in volatile memory until it has a deployment of the passive restraints (air bag and or pre-tensioners) at which point the immediate memory up to deployment is recorded in non volatile memory which is why any deployment requires a new RCM to kill lights on the dash as that RCM is no longer able to record in non volatile memory. If you wake up the system, but it decides the threashold for deployment isn't met, it records and keeps the same but it's not locked as non volatile, it just doesn't write over that event unless there is later a deployment. Some systems will record two such non deployment events. The recording was done to cover manufacturers butts in the event of lawsuits.
What was preserved in the memory varied by manufacturer. Some recorded longer or greater detail that others. Items recorded ranged from brake status, accelerator status, speed, delta v ("jerk"), driver harness use, if a passenger was present, passenger harness use, at what point algorithm wake up occurred, decisions made by RCM, all in milliseconds. Really fascinating to study along with other evidence in a post crash reconstruction.
No GPS ability.
What was preserved in the memory varied by manufacturer. Some recorded longer or greater detail that others. Items recorded ranged from brake status, accelerator status, speed, delta v ("jerk"), driver harness use, if a passenger was present, passenger harness use, at what point algorithm wake up occurred, decisions made by RCM, all in milliseconds. Really fascinating to study along with other evidence in a post crash reconstruction.
No GPS ability.
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Thanks for the quick assistance and my question has been answered. There is NO GPS! You guys are the best! BTW, I bought this truck used and I love it. I am aware of the tin foil hat in the back of the owners manual but the truck didn't have one, I had to get the hat from the dealer! lol