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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 11:09 PM
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Intake recommendations?

I'm debating on getting a K&N Fuel injection performance intake for my 5.4 or would I be better off with the gotts mod and K&N air filter or just another intake brand all together?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Gotts mod and an Amsoil, AFE or similar filter.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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Is the gotts mod gonna be just as effective as an actual K&N?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Yes, and it still gets COLD air from the fenderwell, not HOT air from under the hood. A DRY air filter won't foul the MAF with oil and it WILL filter better.

The only reason to get a K&N is to make noise and look cool.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Well looking cool is half the reason. I'm sick of that ugly plastic and silencers in the engine bay.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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Yes, and it still gets COLD air from the fenderwell, not HOT air from under the hood. A DRY air filter won't foul the MAF with oil and it WILL filter better.

The only reason to get a K&N is to make noise and look cool.
been running a CAI with an oiled filter on my mustang for 5 years now. havent fouled the MAF once. if you are easy with the oil, it wont foul the MAF. I wipe clean my MAF every time i recharge the filter just out of habit. never have had any oil on it.

ive thought about a K&N drop in to go along with my Gotts intake, just havent done it.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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Well looking cool is half the reason. I'm sick of that ugly plastic and silencers in the engine bay.
Then get an intake that still gets external air and uses a dry filter. If this is a 04+ you will probably need a programmer and custom tunes to avoid running lean.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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An intake will really cause lean issues?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Yes it will cause you to go lean. You're increasing air intake w/ out adjusting fuel so your A/F ratio is slightly skewed. I currently run a stage 2 aFe and have never hurt my MAF in the 5yrs I've ran this kit.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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An intake will really cause lean issues?
Yes, because the MAF is no longer in the same position. This may need to be compensated for with a tune. This is especially a problem with the 5.4 3 valve.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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I've been running a Roush intake on my '07 5.4 for about 3 years now just fine. I've got the Roush exhaust on it as well. (local dealer was selling parts at cost) The Roush intake looks exactly like an AirAid intake to me. anyway, Ford doesn't void the warrenty on the Roush set up because the increased air flow is still inside the stock EFI system's ability to adjust. I tow with my setup. couple of more MPH and more throttle response without a tune. Deffinately worth it for me since i obtained parts at cost and installed myself. the only drag was walking away from the Roush supercharger he wanted to sell at cost as well.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ZRXKUMA
I've been running a Roush intake on my '07 5.4 for about 3 years now just fine. I've got the Roush exhaust on it as well. (local dealer was selling parts at cost) The Roush intake looks exactly like an AirAid intake to me. anyway, Ford doesn't void the warrenty on the Roush set up because the increased air flow is still inside the stock EFI system's ability to adjust. I tow with my setup. couple of more MPH and more throttle response without a tune. Deffinately worth it for me since i obtained parts at cost and installed myself. the only drag was walking away from the Roush supercharger he wanted to sell at cost as well.
That's an incorrect, and risky, assumption.

The only way you'll know yer 'fine', on your specific truck, is via direct measurment. Period.

Originally Posted by VMP
Small changes in the way the mass air sensor and tubing around it is aligned may result in major changes in how the mass air sensor measures the air entering the engine. On Fords, the mass air sensor is used to determine fueling, its also used to determine load. Spark timing is calculated based on load. If your mass air transfer function is shifted lean, your car will be too lean and it will have too much timing, which is a very bad combination.

Originally Posted by VMP Tuning
We can tune for different cold air intakes on 05+ Mustangs and 04+ F150s. Any aftermarket intake that flows well and puts the slot-style MAF sensor into a larger less restrictive housing is going to REQUIRE a tune for the vehicle to run properly. Intakes that do not require a tune are often just as restrictive as stock and do not result in large power gains.
Originally Posted by Troyer Performance

Hang on there - no, you CANNOT just put any intake kit on the 2004 & newer F-150's with the 5.4 3-valve motor, as virtually ALL the CAI's on the market for those vehicles WILL in fact cause the engine to go *drastically and dangerously* lean. It's not like the 2-valve & 4-valve modular motors, the 3V's have a different MAS system and it's far more unforgiving of changes made to the air intake tract. What Bartak1 very kindly responded with is accurate info for the 1997-2003 trucks, but not for the 2004 & up 5.4 3V motors.

We've gone over all of this many times before, so you can use the SEARCH feature here to retrieve & read any of our hundreds of previous posts on this exact topic.

By the way - THANK YOU for asking about this before doing it - so many people just accept what the various manufacturers claim and slap on intake kits and then have problems, or in some cases don't get any warning lights on the dash - we've seen 19:1 lean not throw a code on some of the 5.4 3Vs during a full-throttle dyno pull, and that is scary.
 

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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Gotts or S&B, the first is still the best deal.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by camopaint0707
An intake will really cause lean issues?
YES! But not because it's getting more air. Since the OEM intake isn't limiting air flow, you won't get any more air with a larger diameter intake tube. What
happens is the air velocity goes down, causing the MAF sensor air flow measurement to be off. Do your wallet, and truck a big favor and stick with the OEM CAI.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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I run an Airaid, not as pretty as some of the others on the market but it's been fine for me. I clean the MAF a few weeks after as well. I go light on the re-oil.

Gotta agree with Camopaint0707, the stock intake is just an ugly massive piece-o-plastic mess in there.
 
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