Are you having an CEL issues?

 

fyi ...

vvv From a previous post, but overlooked? vvv

Translation - the absence of a CEL is a meaningless determinator regarding A/F safety.

MGD

 

I miss my AEM brute force intake to be honest.
I have the gotts modd and prefer the looks of a aftermarket intake.
I miss the sounds, mostly though. It gave the truck a nice beefy tone IMO.
But oh well.

 

So short of a tune, what can you do to avoid a lean code with an aftermarket intake?

 

SFA, unfortunately.

That's the crux of the issue, as there is just no way to tell if yer safe, or at risk, without direct measurement, either by yourself with a wideband, or a dyno session.

MGD

 

SFA? And worst case it runs a little lean, not gonna blow up anything.

 

Well here is the thing, and now this is just my opinion.

You can "play it safe" and stick with the gotts mod, or get tuned for the CAI.
OR
You can just put it on and go with it, I know many, many people across the nation have likely bought and installed CAI's with little to no issues.

I know I ran my 06 with a CAI and had "no known issues" but I never checked the A/F.
I have seen plenty of other 5.4' with CAI's and "no known issues".

I think the sales numbers for 2005 alone was over 900,000 trucks in the F-series.
If 10% of those people bought CAI and had issues it would be a bit more wide spread.

OTOH, we have people who test/tune the trucks and even they say it (A/F) varies wildly from truck to truck and year to year.
However, those people want to sell a product/service and it makes a good sales pitch.
Not calling anyone out, or saying anyone is fibbing.

The only way to be sure is have it tested, but for the same money you could have bought a programmer.

I personally think its a toss up and each person should consider the facts and go from there.

If I had the money I would buy a S&B or roush intake my self, and if I had even more money I would buy a PHP programmer. (I had a gryphon)
But I don't. I have the gotts mod, and while I like the looks/sound of a CAI I rarely ever see under the hood.

So, make up your own mind. Just mind the information you can find here.

 

Well I have an edge programmer but I'm not sure that would do anything for a CAI

 

No, it doesn't. The Edge programs are written specifically for the stock intake.

 

Nice dissertation, but unfortunately, incorrect.

Would you then invalidate the folks on here using SCT Advantage as we speak, to tune their own trucks? And write their own MAF transfer functions for their intakes?

And yes, you just, in effect, called these folks and the highly respected tuning shops, 'fibbers'. You are, quite simply, 110% unqualified to do so.

One trip to a dyno day would set you straight (unless you have issues believing yer own eyes) - addressing yer ignorance is yer responsibility alone.

No one really cares what other ignorant folks insist upon doing to their trucks. Ignoring physics and facts is for losers. You should strive to avoid being a loser.

The correction process is similar for an intake change as it is for a MAF change, as lean conditions / measurement inaccuracies are a consequence of both a MAF change, or aftermarket CAI.

http://www.superstang.com/maf.htm

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/583.shtml


MGD

 

Ive got an S&B filter on my 5.4. Looks and sounds good have had it for over 3 years now with tunes. Personally I would never run an open filter on these trucks unless you drive road only. The wheel wells on these trucks let alot of water and mud into the engine bay when offroading.

 

Well here is the thing, and now this is just my opinion.



I did not claim to be "correct", I offered my opinion.
Plain and simple.

No.
Not every truck is the same, not every year is the same. Not every truck from 06-08 will have issues.

Could they possibly ever, maybe just once stretch the truth?
I never said anyone was fibbing, I said it makes a good "sales pitch", and it does.
All I was saying is that it makes a good sales pitch, sells a good proudct and adds a tangible results.


"yer" totally correct, except the part where you call me out over nothing.
Good job.


Ok.


I did not ignore anything, I offered a opinion.




Truth, I had problems keeping mine clean, so I sold it. Then I sold my gryphon.


The only way to be sure is have it tested, but for the same money you could have bought a programmer.
Its better safe than sorry.


I personally think its a toss up and each person should consider the facts and go from there.
And before it gets taken out of context again.
You should consider the facts and other information you can find here and other places and make your own decision.
Some people have installed CAIS and had no known issues, however the information is easily obtained.
Based on that information it should be up to you to decide if you want to risk it and go with out a tune or spend the money for both a CAI and programmer. Or do the gotts mod.