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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Who needs brakes? Put a perfomance suspension on it and hang on. O wait, im in FLORIDA, we dont know what downhills and mountains are here
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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On steep downhill grades in the mountains, keeps your brakes from overheating.
so when im going downhill i just switch to second? or OD the second?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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well depends on the speed. if you just want the motor to drag you some, turn the over drive off, that will put you in 3rd gear, and make your motor wind up some. if your still below 2 grand then put it in 2nd and youll move up to like 4 grand.

haev you ever driven a straight shift before? its like when your going down a long hill at 25 you can leave it in 2nd, the motor will be up in rpms but you dont have to ride the brakes.

its not too bad for your motor either since the oil pump is still goin
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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well depends on the speed. if you just want the motor to drag you some, turn the over drive off, that will put you in 3rd gear, and make your motor wind up some. if your still below 2 grand then put it in 2nd and youll move up to like 4 grand.

haev you ever driven a straight shift before? its like when your going down a long hill at 25 you can leave it in 2nd, the motor will be up in rpms but you dont have to ride the brakes.

its not too bad for your motor either since the oil pump is still goin
I have to disagree slightly. Disengaging OD will leave you in 4th gear, not third. Only the torque converter is disengaged. There are plenty of us here that always disengage the torque converter - but we still have the benefit of all four gears.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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so then why does it have od off, then go to second. if the od off unlocked the converter, then how would you tell it just to not go into fourth.

so you hit od off, it leaves you in fourth, unlocks converter, then you mean when you pop it into second(the next available option) it skips 3rd all together? or would you then be in 3rd with the tc unlocked, and the 2 on the shifter is a lie?

i was always taught that od off took you out of over drive because its main purpose is for pulling a trailer and overdrive means your gear ratio is less than one to one, which you dont want to use for towing.
 

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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I have to disagree slightly. Disengaging OD will leave you in 4th gear, not third. Only the torque converter is disengaged. There are plenty of us here that always disengage the torque converter - but we still have the benefit of all four gears.
Negative on that one man.

The service manual's tranny solenoid operation charts show overdrive off with continued electronic control of the TCC and no fourth gear available. The TCC is not hydraulically disabled until first gear.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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I have to disagree slightly. Disengaging OD will leave you in 4th gear, not third.....
WTF does this even mean????????

This makes ZERO sense and is 100% completely FALSE.

Both the Floor shifted and Column shifted use the EXACT SAME TRANSMISSION. Do you actually think Ford built two different tranny's?

On the Column shifted tranny, there is a button at the end of the stalk which will disengage OD. This forces the tranny OUT OF 4th GEAR and into THIRD, which is a 1:1 ratio.



Some of the statements made on this forum boggle the mind.



*****

I selected the column shift.

I love the wide open spaciousness it affords the front passengers, especially on long trips. It also provides ample room up front for more "stuff".

Think of the column shift as a functional choice.

Think of the floor shift as an aesthetic choice.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Well, that is very interesting. Something must be wrong with my tranny. With overdrive off, I get 3 solid shifts at WOT. First time I have ever heard anyone suggest that with OD off, you only have access to 3 gears. Maybe I need to listen more closely. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rms8
WTF does this even mean????????

This makes ZERO sense and is 100% completely FALSE.

Both the Floor shifted and Column shifted use the EXACT SAME TRANSMISSION. Do you actually think Ford built two different tranny's?

On the Column shifted tranny, there is a button at the end of the stalk which will disengage OD. This forces the tranny OUT OF 4th GEAR and into THIRD, which is a 1:1 ratio.



Some of the statements made on this forum boggle the mind.



*****

I selected the column shift.

I love the wide open spaciousness it affords the front passengers, especially on long trips. It also provides ample room up front for more "stuff".

Think of the column shift as a functional choice.

Think of the floor shift as an aesthetic choice.
Whoa... easy buddy. I am simply disagreeing with you that disengaging overdrive leaves you with only 3 available gears instead of 4. Someone else already corrected me, and did so without going beyond my statement or suggesting I am dense enough to believe Ford built two transmissions for the 04-08 models. I wasn't comparing column and floor when I made the statement.

I agree with you that if someone suggests that column-shift transmissions and floor-shift transmissions in our 04-08 F150s are different transmissions altogether, that particular someone just doesn't get it. To be fair, though, I also tend to think the same about someone who reads a very clear statement, yet somehow turns it into something else entirely.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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....To be fair, though, I also tend to think the same about someone who reads a very clear statement, yet somehow turns it into something else entirely.


Originally Posted by minus_13
I have to disagree slightly. Disengaging OD will leave you in 4th gear, not third. Only the torque converter is disengaged. There are plenty of us here that always disengage the torque converter - but we still have the benefit of all four gears.
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This forces the tranny OUT OF 4th GEAR and into THIRD, which is a 1:1 ratio.

I thought your post was very clear.

You said (not even implied) "Disengaging OD will leave you in 4th gear, not third." AND "...plenty of us here that always disengage the torque converter - but we still have the benefit of all four gears."


Epic FAIL
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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not to mention, it makes it a lot easier when the girlfriend leans over to give some road head.
bingo!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rms8
I thought your post was very clear.

You said (not even implied) "Disengaging OD will leave you in 4th gear, not third." AND "...plenty of us here that always disengage the torque converter - but we still have the benefit of all four gears."


Epic FAIL
Well, I really don't want to engage in this childish nonsense. You are a transmission genius, and I am a failure. Congrats.

GATORB8,

Thank you for your insight. It forced me to go back and reconsider what I knew. I actually learned something. This is why I love this site.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by minus_13
Well, that is very interesting. Something must be wrong with my tranny. With overdrive off, I get 3 solid shifts at WOT. First time I have ever heard anyone suggest that with OD off, you only have access to 3 gears. Maybe I need to listen more closely. Thanks for the heads up.
There may be a failsafe at WOT, if you peg out in third it may force the upshift to 4th, but I would think that would be well north of 100mph since the 2-3 upshift can happen at up to 80 mph.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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alright guys easy now. back to floor shift vs column shift.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORB8
There may be a failsafe at WOT, if you peg out in third it may force the upshift to 4th, but I would think that would be well north of 100mph since the 2-3 upshift can happen at up to 80 mph.
Again, thank you for the insight. I'll pay closer attention next time I slam the pedal down from a complete stop.
 
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