help deciding, column vs. floor shift
well depends on the speed. if you just want the motor to drag you some, turn the over drive off, that will put you in 3rd gear, and make your motor wind up some. if your still below 2 grand then put it in 2nd and youll move up to like 4 grand.
haev you ever driven a straight shift before? its like when your going down a long hill at 25 you can leave it in 2nd, the motor will be up in rpms but you dont have to ride the brakes.
its not too bad for your motor either since the oil pump is still goin
haev you ever driven a straight shift before? its like when your going down a long hill at 25 you can leave it in 2nd, the motor will be up in rpms but you dont have to ride the brakes.
its not too bad for your motor either since the oil pump is still goin
well depends on the speed. if you just want the motor to drag you some, turn the over drive off, that will put you in 3rd gear, and make your motor wind up some. if your still below 2 grand then put it in 2nd and youll move up to like 4 grand.
haev you ever driven a straight shift before? its like when your going down a long hill at 25 you can leave it in 2nd, the motor will be up in rpms but you dont have to ride the brakes.
its not too bad for your motor either since the oil pump is still goin
haev you ever driven a straight shift before? its like when your going down a long hill at 25 you can leave it in 2nd, the motor will be up in rpms but you dont have to ride the brakes.
its not too bad for your motor either since the oil pump is still goin
so then why does it have od off, then go to second. if the od off unlocked the converter, then how would you tell it just to not go into fourth.
so you hit od off, it leaves you in fourth, unlocks converter, then you mean when you pop it into second(the next available option) it skips 3rd all together? or would you then be in 3rd with the tc unlocked, and the 2 on the shifter is a lie?
i was always taught that od off took you out of over drive because its main purpose is for pulling a trailer and overdrive means your gear ratio is less than one to one, which you dont want to use for towing.
so you hit od off, it leaves you in fourth, unlocks converter, then you mean when you pop it into second(the next available option) it skips 3rd all together? or would you then be in 3rd with the tc unlocked, and the 2 on the shifter is a lie?
i was always taught that od off took you out of over drive because its main purpose is for pulling a trailer and overdrive means your gear ratio is less than one to one, which you dont want to use for towing.
Last edited by fivespeedsteed; Mar 18, 2010 at 09:01 AM.
The service manual's tranny solenoid operation charts show overdrive off with continued electronic control of the TCC and no fourth gear available. The TCC is not hydraulically disabled until first gear.
This makes ZERO sense and is 100% completely FALSE.
Both the Floor shifted and Column shifted use the EXACT SAME TRANSMISSION. Do you actually think Ford built two different tranny's?
On the Column shifted tranny, there is a button at the end of the stalk which will disengage OD. This forces the tranny OUT OF 4th GEAR and into THIRD, which is a 1:1 ratio.
Some of the statements made on this forum boggle the mind.
*****
I selected the column shift.
I love the wide open spaciousness it affords the front passengers, especially on long trips. It also provides ample room up front for more "stuff".
Think of the column shift as a functional choice.
Think of the floor shift as an aesthetic choice.
Well, that is very interesting. Something must be wrong with my tranny. With overdrive off, I get 3 solid shifts at WOT. First time I have ever heard anyone suggest that with OD off, you only have access to 3 gears. Maybe I need to listen more closely. Thanks for the heads up.
Last edited by minus_13; Mar 18, 2010 at 10:26 AM.
WTF does this even mean????????
This makes ZERO sense and is 100% completely FALSE.
Both the Floor shifted and Column shifted use the EXACT SAME TRANSMISSION. Do you actually think Ford built two different tranny's?
On the Column shifted tranny, there is a button at the end of the stalk which will disengage OD. This forces the tranny OUT OF 4th GEAR and into THIRD, which is a 1:1 ratio.
Some of the statements made on this forum boggle the mind.
*****
I selected the column shift.
I love the wide open spaciousness it affords the front passengers, especially on long trips. It also provides ample room up front for more "stuff".
Think of the column shift as a functional choice.
Think of the floor shift as an aesthetic choice.
This makes ZERO sense and is 100% completely FALSE.
Both the Floor shifted and Column shifted use the EXACT SAME TRANSMISSION. Do you actually think Ford built two different tranny's?
On the Column shifted tranny, there is a button at the end of the stalk which will disengage OD. This forces the tranny OUT OF 4th GEAR and into THIRD, which is a 1:1 ratio.
Some of the statements made on this forum boggle the mind.
*****
I selected the column shift.
I love the wide open spaciousness it affords the front passengers, especially on long trips. It also provides ample room up front for more "stuff".
Think of the column shift as a functional choice.
Think of the floor shift as an aesthetic choice.
I agree with you that if someone suggests that column-shift transmissions and floor-shift transmissions in our 04-08 F150s are different transmissions altogether, that particular someone just doesn't get it. To be fair, though, I also tend to think the same about someone who reads a very clear statement, yet somehow turns it into something else entirely.
....To be fair, though, I also tend to think the same about someone who reads a very clear statement, yet somehow turns it into something else entirely.
I thought your post was very clear.
You said (not even implied) "Disengaging OD will leave you in 4th gear, not third." AND "...plenty of us here that always disengage the torque converter - but we still have the benefit of all four gears."
Epic FAIL
GATORB8,
Thank you for your insight. It forced me to go back and reconsider what I knew. I actually learned something. This is why I love this site.
Well, that is very interesting. Something must be wrong with my tranny. With overdrive off, I get 3 solid shifts at WOT. First time I have ever heard anyone suggest that with OD off, you only have access to 3 gears. Maybe I need to listen more closely. Thanks for the heads up.
Again, thank you for the insight. I'll pay closer attention next time I slam the pedal down from a complete stop.




