Sparkplug Purgatory...
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FMC- I have read at LEAST twice before Ford tech's saying take them out with an impact wrench- CORDLESS IMPACT! And I can actually understand why they said it. There is something about the tamer impacting of a rechargeable 3/8 impact that works to your advantage at times. I wouldn't even consider taking plugs out of ANY engine with an air operated impact. Over the years I used the "magic" of a Jiffy panel cutter (extremely controllable) to my advantage in scores of ways the original designers never envisioned. (not removing spark plugs- )
Now if someone made a Cordless "right angle" Impact (adjustable), that would be the cats ***. IR has a Air Impact ratchet that's accurately adjustable, -I wouldn't be afraid of using that back there.
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I can understand the dealer raising the cost if a small fix turns out to be a bigger underlying issue....but with just a spark plug change it seems to me that they messed this up. How could they charge you for that? I would be raging, man. I feel for you.
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If I was you I would have a long talk with the service manger using all the good choice words over and over again. I would aslo make the point they screwed up and ask why should you be charged extra for there screw up. Since all you went in there for was a spark plug change. Its there problem they ripped the threads out not yours.
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The end...
Finally got my truck back last night. Long story short, I lightened my wallet by $800 instead of $2300 they were telling me it was going to be. They rolled the $380 'Major tune-up' into the bill and they applied some 'warranty,' that I still don't totally understand, to bring the total cost to $815. I'm still not happy with it but I'll live with it...
Anyway, here's the blood & guts:
Bad plug, appears to have been cracked for some time...
The whole gang, looks like I've been running rich for a while
And the invoices, first the 'warranty bill' notice the $7 sparkplugs
And my bill, all of a sudden the sparkplugs WERE $27
I still think this is/was a FoMoCo/dealer issue not a 'Bill' issue and that my cost shouldn't have been more than the 'Major tune-up.' I also just can't deal with ineptitude/stupidity/deception without blowing my top and becoming a COMPLETE jackass which 99% of the time gets nothing accomplished... So I bend over, pay my bill and swear to keep my vehicles out of the stealerships service bays.
Anyway, here's the blood & guts:
Bad plug, appears to have been cracked for some time...
The whole gang, looks like I've been running rich for a while
And the invoices, first the 'warranty bill' notice the $7 sparkplugs
And my bill, all of a sudden the sparkplugs WERE $27
I still think this is/was a FoMoCo/dealer issue not a 'Bill' issue and that my cost shouldn't have been more than the 'Major tune-up.' I also just can't deal with ineptitude/stupidity/deception without blowing my top and becoming a COMPLETE jackass which 99% of the time gets nothing accomplished... So I bend over, pay my bill and swear to keep my vehicles out of the stealerships service bays.
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Can't understand, whatever the sevice manual states, after reading the TSB, it specifacally states do NOT use and air or cordless impact for removal, as it totally makes sense not too. You have no idea/feel for what is going on, as far as binding etc when removing them. It also states the removal torque will be about 33 ft-lb, a tad more then the installation torque.In all my years building engines, I have NEVER used, nor would advise using any impact unit for this type of work period!
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FMC- I have read at LEAST twice before Ford tech's saying take them out with an impact wrench-
The joy of the internet.....You probably can find NUMNEROUS sights telling you how to make woopie with farm animals too, but it doesn't make it right.
please use common sence.
The joy of the internet.....You probably can find NUMNEROUS sights telling you how to make woopie with farm animals too, but it doesn't make it right.
please use common sence.
And stay away from those farm animals, that'll get you in more trouble than the spark plugs will!
Last edited by code58; 02-10-2010 at 05:30 AM.