Spark plug update?
sounds good to me
I called around 4 of the places on Cape Cod where im from and heres the results i got. im still waiting on 2 dealerships to call me back. but...
dealer 1.) 162$ + the price of plugs + 1 hr labor for EACH plug that breaks or gets stuck.
dealer 2.) didnt give a price but said 3 hours labor + price of plugs + any additional time to extract any broken plugs. he said he has one in there right now that his guy has been working on for 3 days and said they have a "special procedure" they do and use an impact gun to loosen up the inital "blow".
il update what the other 2 dealers say when they call back hopefully its something better than these....
dealer 1.) 162$ + the price of plugs + 1 hr labor for EACH plug that breaks or gets stuck.
dealer 2.) didnt give a price but said 3 hours labor + price of plugs + any additional time to extract any broken plugs. he said he has one in there right now that his guy has been working on for 3 days and said they have a "special procedure" they do and use an impact gun to loosen up the inital "blow".
il update what the other 2 dealers say when they call back hopefully its something better than these....
Hey Stealth - I was saying had I been aware of the plug problem when I purchased the truck in 07 - it might have changed my decision then. I agree that now it's much less of anissue solong as you fnd a dealer who understands the issue and follows the TSB. My only objection now is that Ford continues to allow dealerships to charge pretty much what they like - there is no standard and there should be - IMO.
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i dissagree, they may not have control over what dealers charge but they have control over every other little recall they throw out there. this to me should be under that list because it isnt our fault this is happening, its the moron that designed it. we shouldnt have to pay for ford mistakes. by the way heres my 3rd quote they just called me back.
dealer 3.) 408.14$ (parts and labor if all goes well) + 99$ extra for each plug that breaks.
im pretty unsatisfied with Ford right now....
dealer 3.) 408.14$ (parts and labor if all goes well) + 99$ extra for each plug that breaks.
im pretty unsatisfied with Ford right now....
i dissagree, they may not have control over what dealers charge but they have control over every other little recall they throw out there. this to me should be under that list because it isnt our fault this is happening, its the moron that designed it. we shouldnt have to pay for ford mistakes. by the way heres my 3rd quote they just called me back.
dealer 3.) 408.14$ (parts and labor if all goes well) + 99$ extra for each plug that breaks.
im pretty unsatisfied with Ford right now....
dealer 3.) 408.14$ (parts and labor if all goes well) + 99$ extra for each plug that breaks.
im pretty unsatisfied with Ford right now....
I originally got pretty pissed that a plug change would cost me $315. Then I started figuring how I used to have to change the plugs in my older cars, every 12,000 miles. Granted, it would only cost $25 or $35, but these plugs go to 100,000 miles. So when you start comparing cost, really not a lot of difference.
My plug change was not a big deal other than my concern and fretting about it before hand. I went back with the same plugs with nickel anti-sieze and don't expect to have a problem removing them when they get to about 90,000. They have 31,000 on them now.
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all of that is true im just annoyed at the fact that i have to deal with it and pay so much more than i should have to, thats all.
so when i have ford do them and assuming they follow the TSB and put anti sieze on them hopefully it will work so i can save some $$$ and do it myself without them sticking in there next time.
anyone on here have Ford do their plugs and replace them again on their own after without any issues?
so when i have ford do them and assuming they follow the TSB and put anti sieze on them hopefully it will work so i can save some $$$ and do it myself without them sticking in there next time.
anyone on here have Ford do their plugs and replace them again on their own after without any issues?
all of that is true im just annoyed at the fact that i have to deal with it and pay so much more than i should have to, thats all.
so when i have ford do them and assuming they follow the TSB and put anti sieze on them hopefully it will work so i can save some $$$ and do it myself without them sticking in there next time.
anyone on here have Ford do their plugs and replace them again on their own after without any issues?
so when i have ford do them and assuming they follow the TSB and put anti sieze on them hopefully it will work so i can save some $$$ and do it myself without them sticking in there next time.
anyone on here have Ford do their plugs and replace them again on their own after without any issues?
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i see, thats good to know but im deff not gunna deal with this myself, il have ford do it.
i have an extended platinum warranty, anyone have them done and had their warranty eat the axtra cost?
i have an extended platinum warranty, anyone have them done and had their warranty eat the axtra cost?
I must be the only person who finds these dealer prices out the roof, really 300+ for a plug change?
Even my ( at the time 4 year old ) mustang was like $50 for the plugs and $60 for wires, and dealer cost was like $100 for labor, but I did it my self.
Maybe my area is just poor as hell and prices are higher else where, but most local shops charge from $25-$100 to do a plug change, and new plugs last 30-50K miles, I my self have gave my dad a hand doing simple things like oil changes and tune ups, a oil change was $20 plus oil, and plug change was dependent on engine and car, but never over $50.
Calling my dealers right now.... im on hold...... oh joy, asked for labor only price,
1) labor cost is, $171, for labor, each extra hour if a plug breaks is extra $$ depending on how long it takes.
Even my ( at the time 4 year old ) mustang was like $50 for the plugs and $60 for wires, and dealer cost was like $100 for labor, but I did it my self.
Maybe my area is just poor as hell and prices are higher else where, but most local shops charge from $25-$100 to do a plug change, and new plugs last 30-50K miles, I my self have gave my dad a hand doing simple things like oil changes and tune ups, a oil change was $20 plus oil, and plug change was dependent on engine and car, but never over $50.
Calling my dealers right now.... im on hold...... oh joy, asked for labor only price,
1) labor cost is, $171, for labor, each extra hour if a plug breaks is extra $$ depending on how long it takes.
My opinion differs. I feel there is very little to worry about now since dealerships have been supplied the proper removal and install techniques, and with forums like this on the web should an average Joe run into problems he can easily find information he needs.
This small issue will not keep me from buying a Ford.
This small issue will not keep me from buying a Ford.
Another $100+ dollars just to yank the head. $1800+ to pull the engine... And that's the fleet price!
Thanks Ford, MAY be my last FOMOCO product! I haven't forgotten the machining shavings you left between the head & the block on my old '99...

Only positive note so far was this would have been done VERY cheaply. '$379 Major tuneup' = plugs, air filter, fuel filter, clean COPs, flush fuel injectors, flash computer with updates if applicable and I can't remember what they were going to de-carbon...
And I was being pro-active with only 75,000 miles............
Ahhhhh, no. I just got off the phone with my service advisor. Was told that 'Rotunda tool' didn't work to rethread #7 plug after threads came out of head with the #7 plug. Methinks he was cornfused since the Rotunda is the broken plug remover. Also, this dealership had to GET the Rotunda tool or whatever they were going to use to try to cut new threads in the head. They didn't have it on hand!
Another $100+ dollars just to yank the head. $1800+ to pull the engine... And that's the fleet price!
Thanks Ford, MAY be my last FOMOCO product! I haven't forgotten the machining shavings you left between the head & the block on my old '99...
Only positive note so far was this would have been done VERY cheaply. '$379 Major tuneup' = plugs, air filter, fuel filter, clean COPs, flush fuel injectors, flash computer with updates if applicable and I can't remember what they were going to de-carbon...
And I was being pro-active with only 75,000 miles............
Another $100+ dollars just to yank the head. $1800+ to pull the engine... And that's the fleet price!
Thanks Ford, MAY be my last FOMOCO product! I haven't forgotten the machining shavings you left between the head & the block on my old '99...

Only positive note so far was this would have been done VERY cheaply. '$379 Major tuneup' = plugs, air filter, fuel filter, clean COPs, flush fuel injectors, flash computer with updates if applicable and I can't remember what they were going to de-carbon...
And I was being pro-active with only 75,000 miles............

My opinion still stands.
yeah forget all that noise i got some crappy answers from all my dealerships and most of them didnt seem to talk like they had much experience on the whole deal. one guy said his "guy" had one in the shop right now and hes been working on a plug change for 3 days now....NICE!
their 100k plugs im gunna run them in there and trade it in before i hit 100k.... i dont have the money to fork over for that crap.
their 100k plugs im gunna run them in there and trade it in before i hit 100k.... i dont have the money to fork over for that crap.
I changed mine last weekend, I went back with the Brisk plugs.
http://www.briskracing.com/product.php?productid=57
Its a one peice design, dont know why anyone would put back in the two peice kind. Taking them out will make you nervous, but the idiots i have at my local dealer is even worse. lol
http://www.briskracing.com/product.php?productid=57
Its a one peice design, dont know why anyone would put back in the two peice kind. Taking them out will make you nervous, but the idiots i have at my local dealer is even worse. lol







