HELP! 04 Lariat died and will not start
HELP! 04 Lariat died and will not start
Hey guys. Last night I was driving and my truck just died. It's an 04 SCREW with a 5.4, 4x4. A buddy came out with a scantool and it said it was unable to connect to the computer on the truck. Another buddy said that the battery was probably garbage, and the scantool wouldnt be able to connect because it didn't have enough juice. It seemed to have ok power, but it wouldn't turn over at all. I tried jumping it and got it to turn over, but it wouldn't fire. When I unhooked the jumpers it didn't turn over at all, so I replaced the battery.
I tried starting it again, and it didn't turn over. I now have a ticking/humming sound coming from what I believe is the evap purge valve. Its a small thing on the firewall by the master cylinder with two lines that look somewhat like fuel lines, with a shrader valve, and one electrical plug. Now the truck does turn over, but still won't start, and I still get the hum/tick. I can't figure out what this thing is, or if it is causing my problems or not. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated
I tried starting it again, and it didn't turn over. I now have a ticking/humming sound coming from what I believe is the evap purge valve. Its a small thing on the firewall by the master cylinder with two lines that look somewhat like fuel lines, with a shrader valve, and one electrical plug. Now the truck does turn over, but still won't start, and I still get the hum/tick. I can't figure out what this thing is, or if it is causing my problems or not. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated
as far as i know your purge valve will never keep your truck from starting. check the battery cables, make sure there isn't a ton of corrosion, make sure everything is tight and check grounds. from the way you describe it, it really sounds like a battery.
my 97 did that once and it turnes out to be bad battery....they can do some strange things sometimes.check all connections etc... had a taurus that would just die if i hit a bump just right ...me crazy.. was a loose main ground wire.
Last edited by keith97xlt; Dec 27, 2009 at 04:48 PM.
Here's an update... I got the battery good and charged up and it turns over like a champ but still won't start. I tried resetting the inertia switch with no change. I started checking fuses, and the "Fuel Injector/PCM Power" fuse was blown so I switched a new one, but it still doesnt start. The hum/tick from the purge valve went away at this point. I couldn't hear the fuel pump running with the key on, and hitting the tank with a mallet didn't start it, so I pulled the inertia switch and ran a jumper wire to see if the switch was bad, which it apparently wasn't. I thought it might be bad because I assumed resetting it would make the button seat and click in when I reset it, but apparently that's not the case. So I think it's the fuel pump, but I can't be sure. My truck is on a street 10 miles from my house so it's hard for me to do too much with it today
Try the fuel pump driver module, its a 150 dollar part, mine went on my truck, its near the spare, do a search for fuel pump driver module and you'll learn more. It may be completely unrelated to the battery
make sure you check all the fuses. If you ahd one blown there could have been one in the engine compartmwnt or in the cab that blown too.
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Same thing (above) happened to my 2005 and it was dead in the water, but turned over fine. Now that you have a good battery, I'd check for codes again. If the driver module is gone, you won't hear the fuel pump run with the key in the on position either.
Thanks! I'm gonna check the FPDM right away in the morning. I've been searching online, is this a dealer only part? It wasn't even on Tasca. Should this throw any codes or anything to pinpoint it? Or should I just replace it if it looks bad?
It is caused from the FPDM circuit board getting corroded up... bad design.
Yeah, I actually took the driver module out and just looking at the underneath, it had a small hole corroded into it. I knew it was junk, so I took the plastic cover off, breaking the brittle thing into pieces in the process, and looked at the computer board.
The casing had actually corroded against the cpu board, which i believe may have been shorting it out? The board itself didn't look too bad, so i cleaned it up and plugged back in, turned the key and "POW!", it actually started and stayed running! So, I have an idea to basically rebuild a case for it: I'm gonna use the old case and fill it with epoxy, should keep it water tight and keep it from vibrating apart, and at least use that module til i can afford another one. Hope it lasts that long! I'll let you all know if it works..thanks!
The casing had actually corroded against the cpu board, which i believe may have been shorting it out? The board itself didn't look too bad, so i cleaned it up and plugged back in, turned the key and "POW!", it actually started and stayed running! So, I have an idea to basically rebuild a case for it: I'm gonna use the old case and fill it with epoxy, should keep it water tight and keep it from vibrating apart, and at least use that module til i can afford another one. Hope it lasts that long! I'll let you all know if it works..thanks!
Also if you notice "Fuel Injector/PCM Power", that FPDM has a circuit board too just like the ECU.



