Nothing in this world is without risk. Speaking of risk, what's that on the front of your truck? That thing is hideous! Very risky move on your part sporting that!

 

I'm not saying that more are breaking than not breaking, but I do think that more people have at least one plug break than have none break at all.

 

Way to stay on topic, mod who doesn't even use a picture of his own truck in his signature!

 

i hope this matter ended ok!

 

I disagree completely. Call Bankston Ford in Burleson, TX and ask them how many they have had break. I think that us do it yourselfers have more break than the experts, because we don't have the experience to know when to back off and do it safely.

It was a stupid design and should never have happened, but I think the failures do get publicized more than the successes. On another site, thy had a poll. The success rate was like 76% for getting them all out.

 

That's good to hear, but if you know anything about statistics, you know that the entire polling on a website is flawed. You only get a very small sample of the population, and the people who are polled are much more informed that there is even an issue, so they use the "magical" process in the TSB which does increase the "success rate". How many F150 owners (as a percentage) do you think actually read or post on online message boards and are even aware that there is an issue? I have always changed my own plugs on all my vehicles I have ever owned. I never relied on an online message board to tell me that changing them would be a chore, and fortunately no other vehicle I ever owned had any issue with changing plugs. I equate it to there being an issue when changing the oil in a vehicle. To me, changing the plugs is like changing the oil. It is a basic maintenance item that should be quick and easy.

 

If anything the dealers would break them on purpose...then charge out the **** for labor.

 

Yep, That has always been my concern. I suspect some of that goes on.

 

I agree. I went to an independent garage. When they broke 2 of them I raised holy hell because I told them to take all week if they had to. Nope, they insisted on trying to get them out in 4 hours.

 

Your getting way too technical now. If anything the flaw is skewed towards the unsuccessful. How many came on the site because they had no idea till they broke them, seeking help and voted?

You are arguing with the wall. We are saying mostly the same thing. It's a ridiculous problem to have. Ford made a blunder. But the original statement that I responded to of "more break than do not", I still think is wrong.

I have always changed my on plugs. This is the first vehicle that I haven't. It galled me to think what I paid for the plug change till I did the math. I used to change them at 12,000 miles in my old Fords. Paid about $15 for plugs, These go near 100,000, it all evens out when I put a labor charge on my DIY changes.

 

i changed mine at 50k and i got lucky but i followed the tsb anally. Now i replaced the plugs following the tsb to the letter with motorcraft antiseize. when i hit 100k im gonna change em again.

Do i need to follow the tsb again? how is it changing plugs after you apply antiseize to the elcectrode shield thing?

How are any alternative sparkplugs like champion and brisk or whatever

 

I know that your not trying to defend the plug's or Ford but all I have ran in my truck since I purchased it at 62,000 mile's is Chevron and Texaco gas. I still don't understand why this plug broke cause the other one's looked so clean. Every Ford dealership i've been to so far has said that the only plug that ever breaks on them is the one that broke with me. The back driver's side plug. I'm still fighting with this thing and not a single shop around is open today. Look's like my whole weekend is gonna be wasted trying to do a sparkplug change.

 

That sucks, and I'm sorry to hear you still haven't gotten the plug out. Good luck with it. It sounds like you are a lot like me...not willing to give up until it is fixed. I'm sure you will eventually get it out, even if it means pulling the head. I know that if you pull the head, you also have to pull the intake. Doing so, would you have to replace the head gasket on that side and the intake gaskets on both heads as well?

 

Yea i'm not an easy quitter. I hate not being able to accomplish something. I'm lost now though I've tried everything except for pulling the head's. I would replace them either way since I would already be that far and their's not any need in going cheap.

 

Well, I don't know if I would go that far, but I would definitely be mad. Just get one of those Rotunda tools and you should be fine.