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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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good god man!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Wow............

Yeah, I'd say that's a lot of &@%#
Who's got a copy of that pic that says:
FORD when you really need to haul azz....
With the 2 BIG girls in the bed.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Well, since it hasn't been said yet, i'll go against the "in-awe posters" who don't know a thing about trailers or towing.

You need a new truck for sure. I hope you're not going too far....or driving on a public road. I'm sure if a suv full of kids/parents has to stop in front of you quickly for any reason and you can't stop because you're overloaded BY TWICE THE GCVW and plow through them to their front bumper, you'll still feel proud that you at least posted a pick of the load on a website.

BTW, for the previous posters: the wheels on the trailer don't need to be moved further forward and you definitely don't want to put that John Deere ON BACK of the trailer to "level the load". You want more weight just forward of the trailer or you'll get a trailer that'll sway going over 40 mph and possibly send yout truck into a jackknife or off the road.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sackett
Well, since it hasn't been said yet, i'll go against the "in-awe posters" who don't know a thing about trailers or towing.

You need a new truck for sure. I hope you're not going too far....or driving on a public road. I'm sure if a suv full of kids/parents has to stop in front of you quickly for any reason and you can't stop because you're overloaded BY TWICE THE GCVW and plow through them to their front bumper, you'll still feel proud that you at least posted a pick of the load on a website.

BTW, for the previous posters: the wheels on the trailer don't need to be moved further forward and you definitely don't want to put that John Deere ON BACK of the trailer to "level the load". You want more weight just forward of the trailer or you'll get a trailer that'll sway going over 40 mph and possibly send yout truck into a jackknife or off the road.
We must be looking at a different trailer. There is not one pound of weight loaded behind the trailer wheels and the great majority of the weight is on the front of the trailer which shifts it to the truck. You need balance with a trailer with more weight in front of the trailer wheels but not a great deal. How many other trailers have you ever seen with the wheels on the very back? My truck would drag the ground if the wheels on my travel trailer was on the back. I don't know how long you have been a trailer expert but I have towed everything with everything for the last 40 years.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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I'm glad someone else noticed this. I may be young but hauled plenty for our ranch and we shoot for 15% of the total load on the tongue. If we have to adjust the load a little we do.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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dang and thats a 4x4 with the 2" block, imagine if that was a 2wd
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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FYI there were 7 pallets at ~1500lbs each. The trailer probably weighs ~2500lbs. That puts it at 13k lbs. Well under twice the GCVW.

This trailer also has brakes on BOTH axles, so it stops pretty well. As far as running over soccer moms and their SUVs full of kids, you should know that while towing you leave extra room between you and the vehicle in front of you.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by osbornk
We must be looking at a different trailer. There is not one pound of weight loaded behind the trailer wheels and the great majority of the weight is on the front of the trailer which shifts it to the truck. You need balance with a trailer with more weight in front of the trailer wheels but not a great deal. How many other trailers have you ever seen with the wheels on the very back? My truck would drag the ground if the wheels on my travel trailer was on the back. I don't know how long you have been a trailer expert but I have towed everything with everything for the last 40 years.
I never said you want "all your weight" in front of the trailer axles. With your 40 years of trailer towing experience, surely you can see that this trailer is a gooseneck trailer designed for trucks with much more payload capability than a 1/2 ton truck. Your statement of "How many other trailers have you seen with wheels on the very back?" tells me you probably don't know much about gooseneck trailers. 90% of goosenecks have the axles located near the rear of the trailer. Yes, Travel Trailers are a different animal. Their designed with a greater majority of the weight being in front of the axles. I.E. water storage, holding tanks, kitchen/appliances, etc....
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hwm3
FYI there were 7 pallets at ~1500lbs each. The trailer probably weighs ~2500lbs. That puts it at 13k lbs. Well under twice the GCVW.

This trailer also has brakes on BOTH axles, so it stops pretty well. As far as running over soccer moms and their SUVs full of kids, you should know that while towing you leave extra room between you and the vehicle in front of you.
Actually, you're probably very close to twice the GCVW. Yes, you're "only" about 4,000 lbs over the max trailer weight, but when you consider the pin weight of your gooseneck with all the weight forward of the axles and tally up the total payload of the truck and trailer, you're probably looking at ~24,000lbs GCWR! Truck 6000lbs loaded + loaded trailer 15000 (i'd bet your trailer weighs closer to 4K) + 3000lbs Pin weight = 24,000lbs. Your truck's max spec is ~15,000.

Most of us know when towing a trailer to keep extra distance between you and the car ahead of you. It's the idiots that pull out in front of you and stop that get you into trouble. The soccer mom usually has 3+ kids yelling and screaming while she's talking to her best friend on the cell phone about last nights "Grey's Anatomy" episode fits in quite well as an example
 
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by osbornk
you need a trailer that is balanced. The wheels at the back throws the weight to the truck.
I agree. if you're going to tow with a 1/2 ton and a gooseneck, you need a trailer that splits the loading up at least 40 (truck)/60 (trailer)%. You are currently about 80 (truck)/20 (trailer) %.

gotta agree with Sackett here. you are 1 ticking time bomb with your current configuration. And that trailer is easily 4k to 6k in wieght. a simple double axle car trailer usually weighs in over 2k. there's alot more weight to that trailer you have.



I'll bet that truck is hairy as hell driving down the road. how bad does the front end float? and even if the trailer brakes work 100% perfect, you are only effectively able to use 1/2 your total braking power since the front end is nose high
 

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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:48 AM
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oh yeah, my experience is from towing hay and cattle/horses in with 1 ton dually's. It would take alot for me to tow even your trailer with a dually while it's loaded like that.

luckily your cargo doesn't have 4 legs and a brain the size of a pea. gotta love it when some stupid 1,000lb + bull decides he like the other side of the trailer better
 
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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How often do you tow a load like that? I hope not much?
And according to your name tag, you own an '07 F150, I'd like to hear about this truck after a few years, and see how its doing?
and YES.. a bigger truck indeed!
good pic though. thanks for sharing.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 06:47 AM
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Your light cord is dragging on the ground. You should tie it up before it shorts out.
 
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