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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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What happened to 60 mpg hybrid?

I was surfing around and came across this thread claiming we were going to get a hybrid f150 that got 60 mpg in 2008. Sure would be great if it weren't just a rumor. Based on the fact we don't have one i'm assuming it all was hoax

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=228782
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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I saw a 150mpg SUV on MSN the other day. It made 370 HP.

It was battery operated and had some special capacitors in it to help store electricity. The problem with older models is that battery would go dead quickly.

Why hasnt this technology been adopted by car manufacturers?

......in bed with oil companies.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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It has nothing to do with limits of current technology.

I remember discussing with someone before about when they were going to switch to LiON batteries for hybrid battery packs.

Well.... it took'em long enough to figure that out...

I was talking to a friend of mine who is an Electrical Engineer (MA) that is from RIT, and he stated, "The commonwealth of current circuitry design, availability of microcircuitry archtectures, along with capacitor and resistor systems, can power our world. Batteries alone don't solve the problem. It's what's the driving force behind the batteries is what counts."

But case in point; it can be done.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Allcarfan
I saw a 150mpg SUV on MSN the other day. It made 370 HP.

It was battery operated and had some special capacitors in it to help store electricity. The problem with older models is that battery would go dead quickly.

Why hasnt this technology been adopted by car manufacturers?

......in bed with oil companies.
with the dismal sales and huge losses automakers have been posting as of late largely due to the cost of gasoline, your statement is a slap in the face.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Allcarfan

......in bed with oil companies.
I'm not sure their in bed with the oil companies. Reason being, the current gas crisis is destroying auto sales. Like usual, the american car makers are completely unprepaired. They have no hi mileage hyprids. I know ford has the escape, but they need something more than 30 mpg. Last month sales of the prius went up 67%, which is an absolutely insane number.

I have to believe the people in Detroit are smarter. Sure doesn't look like it though.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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It is not the engineers, I know a couple very well(inlaws). The engineers love to solve these kind of problems. In fact, they live for it, but they have been held back. It is the upper management of the automakers. They are so afraid to take a risk that they take the easy way and turn a profit for the short time they are there. GM has had the technology for a long time and has chosen to make the big SUV's because the profit was there. The engineering departments have been screaming about this for years.

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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shoulda clarified...I meant gov in bed with oil companies.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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I have to believe the people in Detroit are smarter. Sure doesn't look like it though.
Do ya really believe that?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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They're testing the technology in UPS trucks. See the 2009 forum for more info...

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...=330815&page=3
 
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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many years ago the southern pacific railroad and rio grande railroad both had a fleet of Krass-maffiti diesel-hydraulic locomotives and the southern pacific also had some diesel-hydraulic locos from the american locomotive works (alco).

there were a failure

this type of locomotive worked fine in europe, but not here

in europe trains are shorter and run faster here they are longer and heavier

the technology did not stand up

diesel electric is the common loco here today


there is one K-M loco shell left in this contry, it is at the california railroad museum

the southern pacific made a camera car out of it for movies of their right away for us in their locomotive train computer
 
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Allcarfan
I saw a 150mpg SUV on MSN the other day. It made 370 HP.


Why hasnt this technology been adopted by car manufacturers?

......in bed with oil companies.
My guess would be that anytime someone invents new technology to get those high mpg's the big automakers buy their ideas, patents etc. and then put them on a shelf so no one else can market it and the automakers continue along pretending that it will be another 20 years before they are able to come up with anything to produce.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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anything over 30 mpg on a vehicle this heavy is a PIPE DREAM
 
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