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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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How long does it take for the computer to learn when a change has taken place? I put on a CAI and my mileage has dropped significantly 2 MPG since installation. I hate to disconnect the battery to reset the computer.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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A few drive cycles.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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How long does it take for the computer to learn when a change has taken place? I put on a CAI and my mileage has dropped significantly 2 MPG since installation. I hate to disconnect the battery to reset the computer.
"Reset" it, what do you think you have to lose ?

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A few drive cycles.
The PCM is constantly learning: from your first drive cycle to your last. It even learns off the rear o2s for very minute changes.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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are you sure the mileage change is not from your right foot? I've put two different CAI's on my truck and the result has been the same. Started with a S&B and immediately picked up some mpgs. Wasn't satisfied with the performance, so I now run the AF1 and picked up even more mpgs and a lot better throttle response. Thats without resetting the computer either time.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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From what i have read (not sure on Ford... but true on Mercedes) the computer is in a "constant" learning state. there is no longer a need to disconnect the battery to trick the computer into "re-learning". This is only used in older models with some of the first "smart computers" or "learning comp's". Should be able to drive around and eventually your truck will figure itself out. but some people do report running too lean with certain CAI and from what i have seen, the only way to fix that... is custom tunes.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
From what i have read (not sure on Ford... but true on Mercedes) the computer is in a "constant" learning state. there is no longer a need to disconnect the battery to trick the computer into "re-learning". This is only used in older models with some of the first "smart computers" or "learning comp's". Should be able to drive around and eventually your truck will figure itself out. but some people do report running too lean with certain CAI and from what i have seen, the only way to fix that... is custom tunes.
Clearing the KAM would clear the LTFT learned.
Those LTFT were specific to the old intake.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Zook: thanks for the heads up. Mercedes is apparently a little bit different (who knew ). There is no need to disconnect the battery, the computer will figure it out and make its own adjustment. Or I use the scan tool and tell the computer we put CAI on.

So, I see your name all over the place and I gotta ask.. " i ride suzuki" you got a samurai? or are you refering to bikes?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Zook: thanks for the heads up. Mercedes is apparently a little bit different (who knew ). There is no need to disconnect the battery, the computer will figure it out and make its own adjustment. Or I use the scan tool and tell the computer we put CAI on.

So, I see your name all over the place and I gotta ask.. " i ride suzuki" you got a samurai? or are you refering to bikes?
LOL bikes. **** their cars.

Had two GSXRs, and now just the LTR. Not really brand loyal but i love my quad.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
From what i have read (not sure on Ford... but true on Mercedes) the computer is in a "constant" learning state. there is no longer a need to disconnect the battery to trick the computer into "re-learning". This is only used in older models with some of the first "smart computers" or "learning comp's". Should be able to drive around and eventually your truck will figure itself out. but some people do report running too lean with certain CAI and from what i have seen, the only way to fix that... is custom tunes.
I have yet to disconnect my battery on any mod.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Thought I'd ask. I have become quite Suzuki Samurai fanatic. Love those little things and thought maybe i found another Samurai fan. Anyways, thanks again.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 05supercrew
I have yet to disconnect my battery on any mod.
Every reflash clears the KAM.
 
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