I agree if you dont put and intake or exhaust on the Edge isnt a bad way to go, plus the guages are just an added bonus.

 

Out of curiosity I wrote to Edge products with a question about their Evolution for the F150 and this was my question and their answer.

From Edge:

You will not need to worry about this because there are sensors on your truck to keep if from running too lean. We do tuning on a stock truck but adding these parts will only increase the power of your truck.

Thanks



Gerry Wilson



1080 South Depot Drive

Ogden , UT 84404

(801)476-3343 ext. 146

www.edgeproducts.com




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From: contact@edgeproducts.com [mailto:contact@edgeproducts.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:43 AM
To: Edge Tech
Subject: Contact Form: Cold air intake with Edge

Hello. Can I use a cold air intake with the Edge programmer for the F150. Can I later add an exhaust to see any additional gains? or will my truck run dangerously lean with these additions? Is the Edge programmed to use these additions? Thanks

 

Does it just just depend on the vehicle and location? Should I trust what this guy is saying becasue he works for the company? Are the trucks running too lean with a CAI and Edge programmer even though there is no CEL? Opinions and experiences will differ. Just wanted to ask them the question about running too lean with CAI and Edge. I gotta go to a DYNO, ASAP and find out for my vehicle if there is anything goin' on. Interesting.........

 

It would not make sense to me for edge to market a programmer that would create such a lean condition that it could cause a major engine damage. If we were talking about a 13.5comp. race engine and trying to run it on pump gas then that would be one thing. But we are talking about a mass produced product that it has been proven that a custom tune can create more horse power. So my question is if the edge can run lean with extra mods then how is this MAIL ORDER custom tune not creating the same condition. To have a true custom tune your truck should be on a dyno and have a A/F reading there to show what is going on in your truck. So a custom MAIL ORDER tune is in fact no different than the edge or whatever else programmer some body decides to go with. If I am out of line or not understanding the comparison to mail order tunes and the edge please let me know. Jared

 

Jared.

Go to the Chips forum. Invoke the Search function. If you don't find the facts that conclusively refute what you just posted in a couple days, or are still not convinced by what you will have discovered, just go with what you think you know.

Good luck.

 

Isn't what BLACK05STXJT posted Mike Troyer's prefered method of tuning... ultimately?

Didn't I read this on the forums once?

So he has a valid point... correct?

 

Ideally, yes. But to state that there is no difference is plain wrong.

Jared, I am but one of MANY mail-order tuning customers. My tunes were datalogged, by ME, complete with A/F's ( I bought a wideband to do this), and the data was sent back to the tuner for review. Result? they were SPOT ON, perfect. In the first iteration. This is NORMAL for TP, as he has perfected this technique for over 15 years on F150's.... thousands of trucks and a boatload of skill and experience.

He can even mail-order tune a Roush s/c! How? Because he has done many, many of those installs in-house and knows them inside-out. These do need iterative tuning (with datalogging/review cycles) to dial it in safely, but again it is entirely possible and is being done as we speak.

You would do well, Jared, to invest a little time and give them a call to discuss your questions - I guarantee you will get an education. You can then thank me later, or not. Up to you - your enlightenment awaits you, lol.

 

To say what I think I know, that is a very good observation. I think that if it comes in the mail it is not a complete custom. Each tune has been based off of some 1 truck just the same that edge uses.. Im not saying that the edge may or may not run lean. All that I am saying is that were are the facts showing that the truck was running lean is all. Did some body pull a spark plug out and was completely white? I could not find any dyno numbers with the information i was looking so unless some body has a dyno with before edge programmer and MAIL ORDER tune that is what i would like to see a MAIL ORDER tune versues and edge and the A/F showing the 2 programmers with the same mods and see the results. Im not trying to start a this vers. this thread. I just would like some information and why these claims have been made. Jared

 

Fair call.

I agree.

 

so how does edge do with the 4.6l because i have been studying up on it and it seems that everyone has the 5.4l would it even be that much of a difference with the 4.6

 

Im looking into getting one because of the better gas mileage. Can someone explain to me how this Edge works? I just plug it in and select a tune?

 

The edge is simply a plug and play programmer. You simply select the level you want and away you go. In regards to the question about how it works for the 4.6, I had the Diablo Sport Predator for a little over a year. When switched to the edge it was a night and day difference. I would recommend the edge over the diablo sport any day. Lata Jared

 

Thats an interesting comment
What was the difference?
I can think of one
Ease of use

 

The truck just felt a lot more peppy to my. Better throttle response and yes the ease of use too. Also my truck being a stx does not have a tach and i keep thinking about getting an xlt cluster and the edge killed 2 birds with one stone. Jared

 

just got my evolution today........DAMM why did i wait so long !
This thing Rocks