Originally Posted by redman_a12

Now who would take something said like that personal..... I expeted more responses like this than not. But I guess my wanting to learn outweighs what I care about what anyone thinks. Everyone starts wrenching at different times. Perhaps if I had a lot of prior experience this problem would have seemed very obvious to me. But I dont, and the only way to learn it, is to do it. So thanks for all the input and F-the haters!