For those that have modded 04-07's - do you wish you were back to stock?
Originally Posted by BlackDawg
If you are looking to be talked out of doing mods then just don't do it.
Originally Posted by StoveTop
To the OP,
First off, can I clarify what you were originally getting at: "do you regret modding your rig, and if so, then why."
For me and my '05 SCrew, no regrets. Albeit my mods are minor compared to some on this forum. I have a 2" AS level kit, aftermarket 18" rims and 33" tires, EDGE programmer, AirRaid Jr. and other such bolt ons and I am pretty confident that things are not any more unreliable then stock. Since my truck's center of gravity is higher than stock, do I have a higher probablilty for rollover? Maybe, but I won't blame that on my mods per se, but on my decision to bolt them on. BTW, I went with the 2" level kit rather than the 2.5" due to CV angles so did I decrease the chance for problems? I THINK so, but the jury is still out.
However for 7 years I had a 6" lifted, 4 door, 2wd Chevy Tahoe with 33x13.5 wheels/tires. This rig saw a lot of action but experienced problems that I believe were directly related to the mods. Problems included multiple front ball joint failures, u-joint failures (rear end was properly shimmed), premature steering sloppiness (replaced all with heavy duty Moog components), increased braking distances (already had crappy undersized chevy brakes), etc. The scariest issue was I lost a front wheel bearing which tore off the passenger-side spindle. Luckily I was only doing 10mph at the time and was able to safely pull over.
Now believe me I understood all of these potential issues before lifting a 2wd truck and putting big wheels on it and the fact that it wasn't made to handle the extra rolling mass, wider track and greater stress on the front end components, etc. But the question here is, did I regret it? Well since no one was ever hurt, my answer is "no". I think the bottom line for me, and the lesson I learned from this is to echo what the others have stated:
- Research
- To live within the tolerances of the truck (in my specific case)
- Don't do things half assed
- Buy quality components from reputable manufacturers
- Install/tune/troubleshoot by someone who knows what they're doing
and most importantly,
- Understand the "SYSTEM" and not just the components. I think once someone undestands the impact to the system, they can deal with it and ensure reliability with no regrets.
First off, can I clarify what you were originally getting at: "do you regret modding your rig, and if so, then why."
For me and my '05 SCrew, no regrets. Albeit my mods are minor compared to some on this forum. I have a 2" AS level kit, aftermarket 18" rims and 33" tires, EDGE programmer, AirRaid Jr. and other such bolt ons and I am pretty confident that things are not any more unreliable then stock. Since my truck's center of gravity is higher than stock, do I have a higher probablilty for rollover? Maybe, but I won't blame that on my mods per se, but on my decision to bolt them on. BTW, I went with the 2" level kit rather than the 2.5" due to CV angles so did I decrease the chance for problems? I THINK so, but the jury is still out.
However for 7 years I had a 6" lifted, 4 door, 2wd Chevy Tahoe with 33x13.5 wheels/tires. This rig saw a lot of action but experienced problems that I believe were directly related to the mods. Problems included multiple front ball joint failures, u-joint failures (rear end was properly shimmed), premature steering sloppiness (replaced all with heavy duty Moog components), increased braking distances (already had crappy undersized chevy brakes), etc. The scariest issue was I lost a front wheel bearing which tore off the passenger-side spindle. Luckily I was only doing 10mph at the time and was able to safely pull over.
Now believe me I understood all of these potential issues before lifting a 2wd truck and putting big wheels on it and the fact that it wasn't made to handle the extra rolling mass, wider track and greater stress on the front end components, etc. But the question here is, did I regret it? Well since no one was ever hurt, my answer is "no". I think the bottom line for me, and the lesson I learned from this is to echo what the others have stated:
- Research
- To live within the tolerances of the truck (in my specific case)
- Don't do things half assed
- Buy quality components from reputable manufacturers
- Install/tune/troubleshoot by someone who knows what they're doing
and most importantly,
- Understand the "SYSTEM" and not just the components. I think once someone undestands the impact to the system, they can deal with it and ensure reliability with no regrets.
Huitt, rdhammer, and turtle, thanks for the input. That's more like what I was looking for.
Bronkx1; I too have tinted my front windows to match the rears and I even put stiainless tailpipe and chrome 4x4 offroad decals on to replace the plain jane stock decals. I also changed my tires within a very short time of buying the truck. I guess these are mods, but not in the sense that I meant.
rms8; BITE ME !!
Originally Posted by MGDfan
Me too!
'Course, he is Canuckian
RMS - I respect your experience, but, please don't preach. Pretty please?
I'm sure if you two guys met, you'd hit it off famously.
This one's on me --->
Bubba
'Course, he is Canuckian
RMS - I respect your experience, but, please don't preach. Pretty please?
I'm sure if you two guys met, you'd hit it off famously.
This one's on me --->
Bubba
I'll weigh in and make sure I never look back at all the know it all replies. I'm happy with the mods I did (gears, supercharger, long tubes, exhaust, etc.). Makes it a totally differnet and very fun truck t o drive. However, if you do have a problem and your tuner is not close by, you'll likely find most Ford dealers scratching their heads, or saying they can't look at it because it is modified.... And in Mustang and Fast Fords (or maybe 5.0, I'm not going to look it up) one of the columns was speaking to the issue of all of the readers who had commneted how much more they enjoyed driving their stangs before they were so heavily modified and had resulting problems. So I don't think it is valid to say it is ludicorus to think you may lose some reliability whiel modding. Tuners, dyno tunes, exhaust, headers stuff like that, I don't see much risk of damage to reliability. The more power you add, though, the more likely you exceed what other parts are engineered for (driveshaft, tranny, etc). When you exceed that, stuff breaks. So its a consideration to have if you have to have you truck ready every day without some backup.
Originally Posted by mlawdawg
I'll weigh in and make sure I never look back at all the know it all replies. I'm happy with the mods I did (gears, supercharger, long tubes, exhaust, etc.). Makes it a totally differnet and very fun truck t o drive. However, if you do have a problem and your tuner is not close by, you'll likely find most Ford dealers scratching their heads, or saying they can't look at it because it is modified.... And in Mustang and Fast Fords (or maybe 5.0, I'm not going to look it up) one of the columns was speaking to the issue of all of the readers who had commneted how much more they enjoyed driving their stangs before they were so heavily modified and had resulting problems. So I don't think it is valid to say it is ludicorus to think you may lose some reliability whiel modding. Tuners, dyno tunes, exhaust, headers stuff like that, I don't see much risk of damage to reliability. The more power you add, though, the more likely you exceed what other parts are engineered for (driveshaft, tranny, etc). When you exceed that, stuff breaks. So its a consideration to have if you have to have you truck ready every day without some backup.
Yes, I regret wasting my money lifting this truck every day. For the $6k I spent on everything, I could have bought me a 77 F250 and put a 16" lift on it and some 52's and not had to worry about anything if I screwed somethin up out in the mud holes. I still believe the 04+ F150 is the best 3/4 ton truck on the market but I wish I would have left mine stock because I'd like to get rid of it and upgrade to a diesel. But now I'm stuck with it cause there's no way I could get anywhere near what I paid for it now.
Last edited by captain morgan8; Aug 21, 2007 at 10:45 PM.
I didn't realize how much I like my Edge till today. I had to take it off to go to the dealer, and I lost so much throttle response, and hp. I put it on as soon as I got home. I don't regret any of my mod's and probably never will.
I haven't read all 39 replies, but I think I'm probably in the minority in this area... No major mods, but I've had 3 tuners (Superchips, then Edge, then Xcal2), CAI (Airaid), 3 different cat-backs or mufflers (Gibson & 2 Magnaflows)...
Over the past few months, all of them have been sold. I just got tired of loud mufflers, loud intake, and firm shifting. I am now 100% back to stock performance-wise. And I couldn't be happier.
Over the past few months, all of them have been sold. I just got tired of loud mufflers, loud intake, and firm shifting. I am now 100% back to stock performance-wise. And I couldn't be happier.
I have next to no performance mods.
But if you're speaking of mods as a "whole," then NO I wouldn't want to go back to the stock look, sound, performance or everything in between.
Sure, there's one or two [minor appearence] mods I've done that have not lived up to my [their] expectations and I regret, but as a whole, I'm quite content with the outcome.
Would I change anything if given the opportunity over again? Of course.... only a bullsheeter would say otherwise.
Anyway, interesting thread, and more interesting replies.
But if you're speaking of mods as a "whole," then NO I wouldn't want to go back to the stock look, sound, performance or everything in between.
Sure, there's one or two [minor appearence] mods I've done that have not lived up to my [their] expectations and I regret, but as a whole, I'm quite content with the outcome.
Would I change anything if given the opportunity over again? Of course.... only a bullsheeter would say otherwise.
Anyway, interesting thread, and more interesting replies.
to be honest, its seems like a constant battle to maintain my truck. i am hard on it though, its my daily driver and also does quite a bit of towing. some of the issues ive had hve been caused by my own carelessness and combination of mods.
all that being said, i wouldnt return it to stock for anything. i have it just how i want it and get compliments almost everyday on it.
all that being said, i wouldnt return it to stock for anything. i have it just how i want it and get compliments almost everyday on it.
IDK I wish I had an everyday car/truck then my truck for when I want to drive it. It rides firm, has a vibe that comes and goes and I gave up looking for it, its loud, it creaks over bumps, its hard to drive and park, ac sucks, traffic in it sucks, I wish I had gotten a bigger truck F250 PS, all in all I hate my truck but at the same time man does it look good sitting in a parking lot. I dont wish I had left it stock I wish I had another car for everyday or when we go to the bars/clubs downtown where i cant park for crap. My truck gets a lot of attention but, I would love to have a comfortable car for everyday driving. That being said the only thing that could get me to sell my truck would be a new IS350 and they have really been grabbing my eye lately now that all my moding is done on the truck.



