Injector Cleaners....
i have used two things.
1.) techron - from what i have read, this stuff is pretty good.
2.) lucas upper cylinder lubricant - it is not a solvent, but a lubricant.
http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...tid=2&loc=show
i put the lucas in the tank twice a year (start of summer and start of winter).
just my 2 cents - oaw
1.) techron - from what i have read, this stuff is pretty good.
2.) lucas upper cylinder lubricant - it is not a solvent, but a lubricant.
http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...tid=2&loc=show
i put the lucas in the tank twice a year (start of summer and start of winter).
just my 2 cents - oaw
Originally Posted by oscar_a_wiggy
i have used two things.
1.) techron - from what i have read, this stuff is pretty good.
2.) lucas upper cylinder lubricant - it is not a solvent, but a lubricant.
http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...tid=2&loc=show
i put the lucas in the tank twice a year (start of summer and start of winter).
just my 2 cents - oaw
1.) techron - from what i have read, this stuff is pretty good.
2.) lucas upper cylinder lubricant - it is not a solvent, but a lubricant.
http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...tid=2&loc=show
i put the lucas in the tank twice a year (start of summer and start of winter).
just my 2 cents - oaw
thats for a diesel
I use the Lucas fuel treatment. Bought the big bottle and run some through a tank once a month. Can't really tell any difference though. I am starting to think Quintin is right, just replace filter every 30k miles, and use quality fuel.
Originally Posted by Grubrunner
I only use Shell.
Stay well away from BP... the biggest piece of crap!
Stay well away from BP... the biggest piece of crap!
bp does not use middle east oil to produce their products....i guess that could be a problem not sending money to saudi or iraq (i dont see it as a problem but a benifit), i look for bp, not many here in houston. citgo is owned by chavez of venezuela...do use that stuff.
Nobody commented on the dry-gas except someone in Georgia who doesn't need it, so I'll tell you I think it's a good idea to use it once a month or so during the cold winters here in NY.
With the temperatures going up and down and humidity levels doing the same thing, sometimes you wind up with humid air in your tank. If it gets cold, the moisture will condense on the inside walls of the tank and drip down into the fuel. Now it's on the bottom of your tank and can find its way into your fuel line. In the summer, any bit of moisture burns with the fuel and does no harm. In the winter, it can and sometimes does freeze in the fuel line and leave you stranded. It can also freeze in the pump or in an injector. It'll take less than a drop of water to freeze and clog an injector. Gasoline from the pump does not have additives to absorb moisture like drygas can.
I do agree with everyone else that additional fuel injector cleaners are not necessary because gasoline has these cleaners already in there.
-CJ
With the temperatures going up and down and humidity levels doing the same thing, sometimes you wind up with humid air in your tank. If it gets cold, the moisture will condense on the inside walls of the tank and drip down into the fuel. Now it's on the bottom of your tank and can find its way into your fuel line. In the summer, any bit of moisture burns with the fuel and does no harm. In the winter, it can and sometimes does freeze in the fuel line and leave you stranded. It can also freeze in the pump or in an injector. It'll take less than a drop of water to freeze and clog an injector. Gasoline from the pump does not have additives to absorb moisture like drygas can.
I do agree with everyone else that additional fuel injector cleaners are not necessary because gasoline has these cleaners already in there.
-CJ
I try to keep the gas tank full as much as possible. This keeps condensation down...and is a good safe practice too...I do occasionally run a tank dry, but my habit is to not let it go below 3/4 or 1/2...or I try.
I recommend Techron and FP plus from www.lubecontrol.com
FP Plus is highly recommended here: http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...=0&Board=UBB40
FP Plus is highly recommended here: http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...=0&Board=UBB40
I've used Lucas Oil for years. Never really noticed a difference but my vehicles are always very well maintained. Bought a 98 Escort last week that had not been maintained very well (was dirt cheap). Used the lucas Oil - oil stabalizer with an oil change and the fuel cleaner/lubricant. Made a HUGE difference in how it ran. Don't really know about fuel mileage but it improved it's idle a TON. Used them both in my 98 f-150 for 200,000 miles to no ill effect. Have been to afraid to put the oil stabalizer in my 04 f-150 since the tolerances are so much tighter than my old 4.6L.
About the extent of my personal experience.
About the extent of my personal experience.
Originally Posted by Eastrick
Nobody commented on the dry-gas except someone in Georgia who doesn't need it, so I'll tell you I think it's a good idea to use it once a month or so during the cold winters here in NY.
With the temperatures going up and down and humidity levels doing the same thing, sometimes you wind up with humid air in your tank. If it gets cold, the moisture will condense on the inside walls of the tank and drip down into the fuel. Now it's on the bottom of your tank and can find its way into your fuel line. In the summer, any bit of moisture burns with the fuel and does no harm. In the winter, it can and sometimes does freeze in the fuel line and leave you stranded. It can also freeze in the pump or in an injector. It'll take less than a drop of water to freeze and clog an injector. Gasoline from the pump does not have additives to absorb moisture like drygas can.
I do agree with everyone else that additional fuel injector cleaners are not necessary because gasoline has these cleaners already in there.
-CJ
With the temperatures going up and down and humidity levels doing the same thing, sometimes you wind up with humid air in your tank. If it gets cold, the moisture will condense on the inside walls of the tank and drip down into the fuel. Now it's on the bottom of your tank and can find its way into your fuel line. In the summer, any bit of moisture burns with the fuel and does no harm. In the winter, it can and sometimes does freeze in the fuel line and leave you stranded. It can also freeze in the pump or in an injector. It'll take less than a drop of water to freeze and clog an injector. Gasoline from the pump does not have additives to absorb moisture like drygas can.
I do agree with everyone else that additional fuel injector cleaners are not necessary because gasoline has these cleaners already in there.
-CJ
Oh yeah; I agree with all the above statements about fuel injector cleaner in a bottle. It's not worth it. The motorvac cleaning method is the only real way to cleanem up, and I believe the recommended interval for doing that is around 100,000 kilometers (60,000 miles?), and even then I've only ever had that done once on my wifes Escort way back when, and it had 160,000 kilomteres on it at that point. It didn't even need it done, but the dealer recommended it and I figured it couldn't hurt since I had it in for a new TPS anyway.
Last edited by last5oh_302; Aug 7, 2007 at 06:58 AM.
I'd recommend AGAINST putting anything in your gas tank except for gas. Oil companies spend millions on research & development and if ANY of them had a fuel or additive that proved to be better for your engine, they'd advertise the hell out of it.
New ford trucks recommend BP gas. I think this is a marketing ploy and that the only reason your gas cap says that is because Ford is getting money from BP to print that on the caps. Same reason the new Corvettes have a plate on the valve cover recommending Mobil-1 oil. Synthetic oils are great, but there's no reliable data to prove that any one synthetic is better than the other. Mobil is paying out the whazoo to have that plate installed.
The only type of fuel system cleaning that (in my opinion) bears any merit is something we used to call Run-Rite (back in my lube tech days). It's a bottle that connects to your power brake booster and through vacuum sends a cleaner through the intake manifold, upper throttle body, and everywhere else that LIQUID fuel never sees. Most shops charge $60-$100 for this service, but you can buy the kit for about that price, and it's easy to do.
I buy BP gas, but that's only because they're the closest to my house and the chick who works there at night is a hottie who flirts with me.
New ford trucks recommend BP gas. I think this is a marketing ploy and that the only reason your gas cap says that is because Ford is getting money from BP to print that on the caps. Same reason the new Corvettes have a plate on the valve cover recommending Mobil-1 oil. Synthetic oils are great, but there's no reliable data to prove that any one synthetic is better than the other. Mobil is paying out the whazoo to have that plate installed.
The only type of fuel system cleaning that (in my opinion) bears any merit is something we used to call Run-Rite (back in my lube tech days). It's a bottle that connects to your power brake booster and through vacuum sends a cleaner through the intake manifold, upper throttle body, and everywhere else that LIQUID fuel never sees. Most shops charge $60-$100 for this service, but you can buy the kit for about that price, and it's easy to do.
I buy BP gas, but that's only because they're the closest to my house and the chick who works there at night is a hottie who flirts with me.
Originally Posted by res1eott
I try to keep the gas tank full as much as possible. This keeps condensation down...and is a good safe practice too...I do occasionally run a tank dry, but my habit is to not let it go below 3/4 or 1/2...or I try.


