Ahh.... I didn't know that. That makes sense, the air charge is not quite as hot as a roots style so the intercooler has to work less and the charge is denser = more power. BUT that truck won't get as good of gas mileage off throttle and normal cruising as a roots setup will......but who cares right?

 

Too bad you can only get it on a 2wd harley. It would be easier to just buy the harley you want and get a saleen S/C and put it on yourself. you would probably save about 7-8 grand doin it that way, and you'll get the same thing.

 

I was talking to someone who is very into Ford and has known people up there in the past. The indication he gave me was that we'll start seeing vehicles that are of a performance nature coming from builders outside of Ford. Vehicles like this harley, the Foose edition, the Shelby mustangs, and maybe others in the future. This is due to the stiffer EPA regulations coming up in the next couple of years.
The manufacturer can build EPA certified vehicles and as long as they are completed cars, they comply with requirements. Then the vehicles can be sent to a modifier/builder to create the desired product. As far as I know, these cars are exempt from any further regulations because the car has already been certified at the manufacturer. The outside builders don't face EPA regulations because of the nature of their business and/or quantity of vehicles built by them. They are not actual "manufacturers".
I do see that trend today, and probably we'll see more of this practice in the future.

 

I have not seen the badges, I don't think they're any different. The 2008 badges are different though, they are "105 Years" anniversary emblems.

 

If anyone wants to hear what the 5.4 triton powered Ashley/Smith Duralast F150 sounds like while winding out past 7K RPM through the Mexican desert soaking up the bumps with its 2ft of suspension travel at speeds of over 100 MPH, then check out this video of it on youtube. It may sound like a Formula 1 racer, but it's definitely coming from the 5.4 triton! It sounded even better in person

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OxQAz_tJuWw

 

I just got my 07 AWD Harley recently and was pretty upset they did not tell us about this not even the dealer.

I am going to have a blower put on it ASAP either a trilogy or whipple.

I like the trilogy on my marauder because everything works perfect for 45K miles and even dealers pop the hood for service and think it was factory.

The Whip I know can make more HP so I need to figure out which wat to go then its rubber burning time.

 

What people dont realize is "450hp" is low 300's at the wheels in our trucks... Less then a stock lightning. The truck will still be PIG slow. The guys that are making 400-450rwhp+ have atleast 550-600 at the flywheel. This is all based on ofcourse the huge drivetrain loss we have seen out of stock trucks on the dyno...

 

Wouldn't the loss in the drivetrain be consistent? 300hp at the fly, on stock, gets you, what, 235ish...78% of the total available power. So, if the power if upped, why would that percentage get worse? 78% of 450 is 351. I say this knowing NOTHING, just thinking out loud.

 

Well most guys i saw were getting 220. Which come outs to about 27% drivetrain loss... Either way it's still not the same power bone stock lightnings were putting down...

 

Well, I don't think there is anyway to compare a blown F-150 HD with the SVT... There was MUCH more love given to the L. Motor, blower, tranny, suspension...

All Saleen is doing is slapping the blower on, tuning it(?) and shipping it out...

I doubt even the Foose is really getting much past the good looks and blower addition. Of course, I need to go re-read the Foose stuf again to be sure.

But 220 sounds more familiar. But, the statement of a consistent loss from the flywheel, given the same transmission, should pretty much hold true??

 

Hi.

More info on driveline losses ....

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=23



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My head hurts now, so much for thinking out loud.... I haven't really been in that forum lately to keep up with everything...

 

Yes this thing will be a slow pig still at the sub 400 HP level after drivetrain loss. Its about 1000 lbs heavier than a lightning at least. Hopefully they will put better rods in this so when people start adding mods the motor will not grenade. Regardless, the Lightning was too much of a good thing to continue offering. Great truck decent power and a light weight....HMMMM Ford how about another Lightning instead of Heavy Pigs with marginal power to weight ratio. I cant get excited about a 43K plus truck that will still weigh as much as a small battleship and still put out less than 400HP to the wheels. It will still be a 15-16 second truck...YAWN...

 

Do you miss your Lightning Fred?
Josh
PS: The Kenne Bell is still not on my L yet.

 

Certain times I have missed it.