2008 F-150????
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
Oh WOW. where do I even start with a post like this....I guess from the top!
You start by saying that you DON'T expect Ford to re-design the truck every 3 years. Right? Ok. But then, you go on to say that "Near as I can tell it's the exact truck as when it was launched." Lucky for the real world YOU can't tell your face from your...well, use your imagination.
For starters, after just 2 years Ford did an exterior minor face lift. Bumpers, lights etc
Also, new colors were added, as well as MANY new interior and configuration options.
A year after that the AWD model was added for those looking for something along those lines.
As for your "no performance gains." (*Ford did actually up the ratings on the 4.6) Tell me, all mighty source of knowledge, how many major manufacturers add or change major engine or drive-train options MID generation? Good luck with that one. And do you know WHY? Because it requires MASSIVE funding and R&D, changing plants, etc etc the list goes on. It doesn't work that way- at least not on Earth.
Hemi's MDS? Hah. You do realize it's worthless crap, right? Ever wonder why Dodge stopped even mentioning it? Because it doesn't do diddily squat.
So now that we have covered the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD, not just Ford RARELY EVER makes significant power train or engine changes mid-generation, hopefully you have some answers.
NOT to mention, Ford went through some massive changes in management, business plan, etc. They had to put a few things on hold due to financial trouble and changing markets. So pull your unrealistic head out of your ****, smell the coffee, and realize you are on the wrong forums.
If you want a BRAND NEW design on a truck, and you want it now, there is no reason for you to be here. So leave.
You start by saying that you DON'T expect Ford to re-design the truck every 3 years. Right? Ok. But then, you go on to say that "Near as I can tell it's the exact truck as when it was launched." Lucky for the real world YOU can't tell your face from your...well, use your imagination.
For starters, after just 2 years Ford did an exterior minor face lift. Bumpers, lights etc
Also, new colors were added, as well as MANY new interior and configuration options.
A year after that the AWD model was added for those looking for something along those lines.
As for your "no performance gains." (*Ford did actually up the ratings on the 4.6) Tell me, all mighty source of knowledge, how many major manufacturers add or change major engine or drive-train options MID generation? Good luck with that one. And do you know WHY? Because it requires MASSIVE funding and R&D, changing plants, etc etc the list goes on. It doesn't work that way- at least not on Earth.
Hemi's MDS? Hah. You do realize it's worthless crap, right? Ever wonder why Dodge stopped even mentioning it? Because it doesn't do diddily squat.
So now that we have covered the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD, not just Ford RARELY EVER makes significant power train or engine changes mid-generation, hopefully you have some answers.
NOT to mention, Ford went through some massive changes in management, business plan, etc. They had to put a few things on hold due to financial trouble and changing markets. So pull your unrealistic head out of your ****, smell the coffee, and realize you are on the wrong forums.
If you want a BRAND NEW design on a truck, and you want it now, there is no reason for you to be here. So leave.
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From: Linn, MO
Originally Posted by bosro
No cylinder de-activation for fuel economy/Dodge put it into the Hemi several years after it's release
Originally Posted by bosro
Read any truck comparison from the last 3 years and the #1 issue with the F150 is the powertrain that does'nt have enough power and gears,so why should'nt Ford make some changes.
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It seems that Ford's philosophy is make all the changes at once and pretty much leave it alone for 4 or 5 years. When you get a redesigned truck from Ford you get all the goodies at once, but once it is out very few important changes take place until the next redesign. Unless you want a 6.5ft bed on a SCrew there is little motivation to spend $20K or more to go from an 04 to a new 07.
You can say what you want about GM trucks, but they do a much better job of motivating sales between redesigns. Updated designs come out with the old drivetrains. A couple of years later more power or transmissions (any bets on when the new Silverado gets the new transmission?), a couple of years significant looks change and just before a major redesign they up the power and option content again.
If Ford came out with the 5 or 6 speed and maybe more power in the current body style I would seriously consider a new truck, but it looks like 09 before there will any reason for me to buy a new F150.
You can say what you want about GM trucks, but they do a much better job of motivating sales between redesigns. Updated designs come out with the old drivetrains. A couple of years later more power or transmissions (any bets on when the new Silverado gets the new transmission?), a couple of years significant looks change and just before a major redesign they up the power and option content again.
If Ford came out with the 5 or 6 speed and maybe more power in the current body style I would seriously consider a new truck, but it looks like 09 before there will any reason for me to buy a new F150.
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From: Medicine Hat Alberta Canada
Originally Posted by Lumadar
Oh WOW. where do I even start with a post like this....I guess from the top!
You start by saying that you DON'T expect Ford to re-design the truck every 3 years. Right? Ok. But then, you go on to say that "Near as I can tell it's the exact truck as when it was launched." Lucky for the real world YOU can't tell your face from your...well, use your imagination.
For starters, after just 2 years Ford did an exterior minor face lift. Bumpers, lights etc
Also, new colors were added, as well as MANY new interior and configuration options.
A year after that the AWD model was added for those looking for something along those lines.
As for your "no performance gains." (*Ford did actually up the ratings on the 4.6) Tell me, all mighty source of knowledge, how many major manufacturers add or change major engine or drive-train options MID generation? Good luck with that one. And do you know WHY? Because it requires MASSIVE funding and R&D, changing plants, etc etc the list goes on. It doesn't work that way- at least not on Earth.
Hemi's MDS? Hah. You do realize it's worthless crap, right? Ever wonder why Dodge stopped even mentioning it? Because it doesn't do diddily squat.
So now that we have covered the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD, not just Ford RARELY EVER makes significant power train or engine changes mid-generation, hopefully you have some answers.
NOT to mention, Ford went through some massive changes in management, business plan, etc. They had to put a few things on hold due to financial trouble and changing markets. So pull your unrealistic head out of your ****, smell the coffee, and realize you are on the wrong forums.
If you want a BRAND NEW design on a truck, and you want it now, there is no reason for you to be here. So leave.
You start by saying that you DON'T expect Ford to re-design the truck every 3 years. Right? Ok. But then, you go on to say that "Near as I can tell it's the exact truck as when it was launched." Lucky for the real world YOU can't tell your face from your...well, use your imagination.
For starters, after just 2 years Ford did an exterior minor face lift. Bumpers, lights etc
Also, new colors were added, as well as MANY new interior and configuration options.
A year after that the AWD model was added for those looking for something along those lines.
As for your "no performance gains." (*Ford did actually up the ratings on the 4.6) Tell me, all mighty source of knowledge, how many major manufacturers add or change major engine or drive-train options MID generation? Good luck with that one. And do you know WHY? Because it requires MASSIVE funding and R&D, changing plants, etc etc the list goes on. It doesn't work that way- at least not on Earth.
Hemi's MDS? Hah. You do realize it's worthless crap, right? Ever wonder why Dodge stopped even mentioning it? Because it doesn't do diddily squat.
So now that we have covered the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD, not just Ford RARELY EVER makes significant power train or engine changes mid-generation, hopefully you have some answers.
NOT to mention, Ford went through some massive changes in management, business plan, etc. They had to put a few things on hold due to financial trouble and changing markets. So pull your unrealistic head out of your ****, smell the coffee, and realize you are on the wrong forums.
If you want a BRAND NEW design on a truck, and you want it now, there is no reason for you to be here. So leave.
Seems asses like you are the only ones who can have an opinion here I guess.
For starters I could care less about the minor changes Ford has made to the interior/exterior........it was fine in 04.
Oh yeah I guess I should get REAL excited about the new colors
Secondly I could care less about the 4.6L,it does not even compare to the 5.4L for towing/hauling no matter what you think.
Thirdly yeah MDS does'nt do anything,that's why GM is going with it to and probably Ford in 09....better mileage is better mileage even if it's just a bit!!
Lastly seems to me GM made several changes to the 5.3L midstream to bump up power,things like E fans........wait oh mighty Lumadar you probably think they don't do anything either!!!
The only unrealistic thing here is your so called eternal knowledge...or lack of it
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i don't know, keeping my vehicles (05 F-150) for 5 years seems to help out a lot when i go to trade in on a new one.... i have never figured out why some people HAVE to have a new vehicle every 3 years..... i know there are certain circumstances (family additions, finacial etc.) that sometimes dictate a change sooner but i'd guess most people just HAVE to have a new vehicle sooner rather than later to be satisfied.... which just doesn't make sense to me...
anyway, I'll wait until 2009 to buy my 2010 truck, whether that be a GM/Ford/Nissan or Toyota....
that way i'll actually have EQUITY in the thing and i'll be able to roll it over towards the down payment on a new truck... hmm... such a profound thought.....
i know too many people that PILE on debt from one new vehicle to another because they HAVE to have a new one every 2-3 years.....
just my 2 cents....
anyway, I'll wait until 2009 to buy my 2010 truck, whether that be a GM/Ford/Nissan or Toyota....
that way i'll actually have EQUITY in the thing and i'll be able to roll it over towards the down payment on a new truck... hmm... such a profound thought.....
i know too many people that PILE on debt from one new vehicle to another because they HAVE to have a new one every 2-3 years.....
just my 2 cents....
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From: Virginia Beach
Originally Posted by SilverScab 5.5
Also this will give a fairly good idea on what the new 09 F150 will look like.
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From: Houston
[QUOTE Ford was the first to do a MAJOR redesign and everyone else just copied them. What do you expect Ford to do, completely re-design the F150 every 3 years? 
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actually dodge was the first back in 2001
[/QUOTE]actually dodge was the first back in 2001
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From: Albany, GA
Originally Posted by polo2005
actually dodge was the first back in 2001
Originally Posted by Lumadar
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As for your "no performance gains." (*Ford did actually up the ratings on the 4.6) Tell me, all mighty source of knowledge, how many major manufacturers add or change major engine or drive-train options MID generation? Good luck with that one. And do you know WHY? Because it requires MASSIVE funding and R&D, changing plants, etc etc the list goes on. It doesn't work that way- at least not on Earth.
As for your "no performance gains." (*Ford did actually up the ratings on the 4.6) Tell me, all mighty source of knowledge, how many major manufacturers add or change major engine or drive-train options MID generation? Good luck with that one. And do you know WHY? Because it requires MASSIVE funding and R&D, changing plants, etc etc the list goes on. It doesn't work that way- at least not on Earth.
Also Chevy went from the standard 5.7L to the 5.7L Vortec in 95 and to the 5.3L Vortec in 99....the Vortec was a major redesign change from the standard small block and the 5.3L GenIII small block was certainly a major change. All these changes were made mid run on the previous truck platform.
So it looks like contrary to what you said Ford is the only manufacture that doesn't make mid generation drive train changes....no no, I am wrong. What about the change from the 7.3L to the 6.0L powerstrokes in the SD line????
I guess its just the F150s that dont get power train changes.