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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Ball joints went out need lowering help.

Ok so i go to do my rear brakes and the axle seal on the drivers side is leaking. I take it to the dealer to get it replaced under warrenty and when i pick it up they ask me who lowered the truck. the reason he asked because my ball joints went out and they had to replace the lower control arms. the guy also tells me i need to get my driveshaft angle fixed because thats what caused the ball joints to go out and caused the leak. I'm a little confused because Im 2wd and how can that cause the control arms to go out? the lowering kit i have on now is the mcgaughys 2/4. should i pull out the front springs and go with control arms? any advice is Appreciated
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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WHAT?? Maybe I cant read but you have a rear wheelseal leaking and then it jumps to both front ball joints going out because of the driveshaft allignment? The drive shaft has no effect on the front suspension what so ever. pull out the front springs and what man I am lost.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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I think there is a communication barrier somewhere.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Yeah, What? How did the driveshaft angle cause premature wear on the ball joints in the front of the truck? I'm seriously thinking about this kit for my SCREW so I'll be watching this thread.......
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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haha tell me about it i looked like a deer in the headlights when the dealer told me this. he said my truck wasnt lowered properly causing the front ball joints to go out. he also said that when it gets lowered the drive shaft angle needs to get adjusted and it wasnt. i dont think the driveshaft could have caused all this but the way he was talking he thinks it dod. luckly i got this all covered under warranty
 

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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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the driveshaft angle does change but that alone has no connection to the front ball joints going out. The front shouldnt be a problem unless the kit has a design flaw but I know nothing about this kit so I couldnt tell you and the rear is its own issue. I have read that there are pinion shimms that you need when you lower but I would assume that they would come in the kit did you not install them?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Well, I think they don't like the kit you have installed. They probably noticed it wasn't a ground force kit.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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the driveshaft angle does change but that alone has no connection to the front ball joints going out. The front shouldnt be a problem unless the kit has a design flaw but I know nothing about this kit so I couldnt tell you and the rear is its own issue. I have read that there are pinion shimms that you need when you lower but I would assume that they would come in the kit did you not install them?
i didnt install the kit i paid a shop to do it a yr ago. i have to take it to a shop to get that done now.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Well, I think they don't like the kit you have installed. They probably noticed it wasn't a ground force kit.
haha its ok with my they covered all the parts under warranty
 
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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WTF mate!

1. ok.. rear axle seal leaking on driver's side.... has nothing to do with pinion angle or ball joints.

2. Pinion angle and driveshaft angle have notihng to do with ball joints or axle leakeage at the axle ends.. MAYBE a pinion seal, but not axle seals.
3. Ball joint messed up? Maybe if the shop you had install the kit beat the hell out of them when they tried to remove them.. Mine came out easily and in tact.
4. That guy is a total idiot. Go back. Slap him. Tell him you think your muffler bearing are going bad as well.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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WTF mate!

1. ok.. rear axle seal leaking on driver's side.... has nothing to do with pinion angle or ball joints.

2. Pinion angle and driveshaft angle have notihng to do with ball joints or axle leakeage at the axle ends.. MAYBE a pinion seal, but not axle seals.
3. Ball joint messed up? Maybe if the shop you had install the kit beat the hell out of them when they tried to remove them.. Mine came out easily and in tact.
4. That guy is a total idiot. Go back. Slap him. Tell him you think your muffler bearing are going bad as well.
do you think i should have my drive shaft angle looked at? and do you think my mcgaughys kit is safe to keep in?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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have your pinion angles checked, but they should be ok. most lowering kits will set the angle correctly. if its off you will know because you will get a driveline vibration. lowering the front suspension could put the ball joints in a bind or at an improper angle to operate correctly. with the truck sitting on level ground, your ball joints should be sitting centered in the sockets, if they are leaning in or out to far they cant move correctly as you go down the road and will wear faster. i think this is what the service advisor was trying to tell you.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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If the kit is a good one, It will come with axle shims or be able to adjust the pinion angle. Heck, the 2" drop shackles I got from ground force come with a tapered shim kit.
 
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