Nissan Titan? That was tasty...
I think if Ford wanted to make a Truck quick they would probably make it a little bit different than the standard F-150. Hey I just had an idea, it was like a bolt of Lightening hitting me. Put a SC'd 5.4L in a lighter version of the F-150. Maybe I should tell Ford about my idea, eh?
Originally Posted by MeanGene
I think if Ford wanted to make a Truck quick they would probably make it a little bit different than the standard F-150. Hey I just had an idea, it was like a bolt of Lightening hitting me. Put a SC'd 5.4L in a lighter version of the F-150. Maybe I should tell Ford about my idea, eh?
Im not asking for a fast truck, I just dont want to be the heaviest with the least HP/TRQ engine of the 1/2 ton truck class...I guess Im one of the few ppl that always look for ways to improve upon existing equipment, thats the engineer in me coming out.
I remember reading somewhere that auto manufactures in general look at the cost of the vehicles they produce in pounds per dollar. I guess from an engineering point of view you’re getting more value for your dollar because you’re buying a truck that weighs more for less money.
Buy the way, have you ever taken a look at the Truth about trucks? It shows some of the reasons that the F-150 is heavier, they didn't mention the aluminum block straight out of the Infinity to use for the Titan, of course.
Kind of reveling for overall construction. See Fender structure.
And just so everyone knows I have owned a Datsun truck and a 510 wagon at one time and I still have some fond memories of them.
Buy the way, have you ever taken a look at the Truth about trucks? It shows some of the reasons that the F-150 is heavier, they didn't mention the aluminum block straight out of the Infinity to use for the Titan, of course.
Kind of reveling for overall construction. See Fender structure.
And just so everyone knows I have owned a Datsun truck and a 510 wagon at one time and I still have some fond memories of them.
Last edited by MeanGene; Oct 21, 2006 at 10:58 PM.
Originally Posted by SAJEFFC
Good points RandallT. The Titan I beat did have an aftermarket exhaust and intake but no tuner. I have raced him before when we where both bone stock and he did beat me but not as bad as you would think. I think it really comes down to the weight difference on these trucks, they are tanks! Mine weighs 6280 pounds full of gas and me in it( I weigh 195) which is 700-800 pounds heavier than my buddy's 2wd Titan. 

I remember back in 1989 everyone said go buy a Toyota SR5 there much better then the others. Well I went to the Toyota dealer and looked at the SR5 V6 that was fully loaded. They wanted around 18,900.00 sticker. Everyone said they were better trucks but I just could not afford those payments at that time. I went over to the Ford dealer and purchased a Fully loaded Ranger V6 for around 13,000 out the door. It now has 190,000 around town miles and the engine is original. It has never been to a dealer only the transmission rebuilt at 150,000. I remember my Datsun truck, great engine, if you like vacuume tubes. The 1975 Datsun had drum brakes all around at a time when in the same year English Motorcycles had disc brakes front are rear. They just can't stick an Infinity engine in there and not cut costs somewhere.
Originally Posted by MeanGene
I remember back in 1989 everyone said go buy a Toyota SR5 there much better then the others. Well I went to the Toyota dealer and looked at the SR5 V6 that was fully loaded. They wanted around 18,900.00 sticker. Everyone said they were better trucks but I just could not afford those payments at that time. I went over to the Ford dealer and purchased a Fully loaded Ranger V6 for around 13,000 out the door. It now has 190,000 around town miles and the engine is original. It has never been to a dealer only the transmission rebuilt at 150,000. I remember my Datsun truck, great engine, if you like vacuume tubes. The 1975 Datsun had drum brakes all around at a time when in the same year English Motorcycles had disc brakes front are rear. They just can't stick an Infinity engine in there and not cut costs somewhere.
Originally Posted by MeanGene
They are the same 90% of 365 = 328.5 for the 2004+ Ford 5.4L 3V
Ford Division reserves the right to change product specifications at any time without incurring obligations.
Ford Division reserves the right to change product specifications at any time without incurring obligations.
The results will answer any Q's you have.
The Nissan is already fast so why would they really have to mod there trucks. They can already outrun us stock for stock.
Last time I checked all these trucks costs about the same amount. so I don't think you will be saving money buy getting a Ford.
Not everyone tows. If I was going to tow I would take my 250.
Why doesn't ford make a fast truck. They wouldn't have to if they made a truck that was competitive to start with. Why is it that all the other manufactures have some speed and ford doesn't? I'm not asking for a race truck (the lightning) just a competitive one.
Sure the Nissan might have problems. All first years do. We are still working out the problems on are F150's. Every manufacture plays leap frog- except ford.. everyone is getting more power (chevy,dodge nissan) except ford. Once nissan works out there problems they will have a pretty reliable company.
Finally you can't compare one car owners experience with anothers. where one Ranger runs for 200,000 miles another might not make it 50,000 with out problems. I had a Nissan pickup with 125,000 miles on it and no problems. But I still bought a ford was I in the wrong? No because sometimes you get a lemon some times you don't. You can only hope by checking the car reports to eliminate your chances of a lemon.
Last time I checked all these trucks costs about the same amount. so I don't think you will be saving money buy getting a Ford.
Not everyone tows. If I was going to tow I would take my 250.
Why doesn't ford make a fast truck. They wouldn't have to if they made a truck that was competitive to start with. Why is it that all the other manufactures have some speed and ford doesn't? I'm not asking for a race truck (the lightning) just a competitive one.
Sure the Nissan might have problems. All first years do. We are still working out the problems on are F150's. Every manufacture plays leap frog- except ford.. everyone is getting more power (chevy,dodge nissan) except ford. Once nissan works out there problems they will have a pretty reliable company.
Finally you can't compare one car owners experience with anothers. where one Ranger runs for 200,000 miles another might not make it 50,000 with out problems. I had a Nissan pickup with 125,000 miles on it and no problems. But I still bought a ford was I in the wrong? No because sometimes you get a lemon some times you don't. You can only hope by checking the car reports to eliminate your chances of a lemon.
Originally Posted by Scandall
The Nissan is already fast so why would they really have to mod there trucks. They can already outrun us stock for stock.
Last time I checked all these trucks costs about the same amount. so I don't think you will be saving money buy getting a Ford.
Not everyone tows. If I was going to tow I would take my 250.
Why doesn't ford make a fast truck. They wouldn't have to if they made a truck that was competitive to start with. Why is it that all the other manufactures have some speed and ford doesn't? I'm not asking for a race truck (the lightning) just a competitive one.
Sure the Nissan might have problems. All first years do. We are still working out the problems on are F150's. Every manufacture plays leap frog- except ford.. everyone is getting more power (chevy,dodge nissan) except ford. Once nissan works out there problems they will have a pretty reliable company.
Finally you can't compare one car owners experience with anothers. where one Ranger runs for 200,000 miles another might not make it 50,000 with out problems. I had a Nissan pickup with 125,000 miles on it and no problems. But I still bought a ford was I in the wrong? No because sometimes you get a lemon some times you don't. You can only hope by checking the car reports to eliminate your chances of a lemon.
Last time I checked all these trucks costs about the same amount. so I don't think you will be saving money buy getting a Ford.
Not everyone tows. If I was going to tow I would take my 250.
Why doesn't ford make a fast truck. They wouldn't have to if they made a truck that was competitive to start with. Why is it that all the other manufactures have some speed and ford doesn't? I'm not asking for a race truck (the lightning) just a competitive one.
Sure the Nissan might have problems. All first years do. We are still working out the problems on are F150's. Every manufacture plays leap frog- except ford.. everyone is getting more power (chevy,dodge nissan) except ford. Once nissan works out there problems they will have a pretty reliable company.
Finally you can't compare one car owners experience with anothers. where one Ranger runs for 200,000 miles another might not make it 50,000 with out problems. I had a Nissan pickup with 125,000 miles on it and no problems. But I still bought a ford was I in the wrong? No because sometimes you get a lemon some times you don't. You can only hope by checking the car reports to eliminate your chances of a lemon.
I buy my trucks new every few years...for transportation and for old car swap meets...I can tow if I want.
Ford makes a very good truck...over the years I've owned 9 new F-100/150's and an F-250. I've been lucky...no problems...have enough problems keeping my two 63 XL's running.
Most trucks today are similiar...the F-150's have always been a good truck and still are...if ya wanna race...mod the heck out of it...and do it safely...at a dragstrip.
And take a good driving course...first.
Originally Posted by Lumadar
fwiw drivetrain loss on the F150 is much closer to 28% than that 10% (If that was what you were saying, I'm lost). Heh, even a 5-speed/manual tranny sees around 15% loss.
If your post refers to my post...here's what I meant.
All the bragging about HP and TQ figures your truck may have are mostly BS...unless you've dyno'd it.....I've seen some fantastic HP figures...and I've seen some dyno figures...here's a couple of samples of HP figures from memory.
Nissan Titan...305 HP at the flywheel 266 on the dyno.
Dodge Ram.....335 HP at the flywheel 242 on the dyno.
The Titan lost about 11%...the Dodge lost over 20%
I can just imagine how much HP the GM trucks will loose over their inflated claims...especially considering the OHV (cam in block) 2 valves per cylinder engine they're running.
Last edited by ExPartsMan; Oct 30, 2006 at 04:48 AM.
Originally Posted by ExPartsMan
The rear end is weak on a Titan....this problem shows up fairly soon...when the mods are added...and street racing begins. See all the whining owners at titantalk.com and clubtitan.com
Originally Posted by ExPartsMan
If your post refers to my post...here's what I meant.
All the bragging about HP and TQ figures your truck may have are mostly BS...unless you've dyno'd it.....I've seen some fantastic HP figures...and I've seen some dyno figures...here's a couple of samples of HP figures from memory.
Nissan Titan...305 HP at the flywheel 266 on the dyno.
Dodge Ram.....335 HP at the flywheel 242 on the dyno.
The Titan lost about 11%...the Dodge lost over 20%
I can just imagine how much HP the GM trucks will loose over their inflated claims...especially considering the OHV (cam in block) 2 valves per cylinder engine they're running.
All the bragging about HP and TQ figures your truck may have are mostly BS...unless you've dyno'd it.....I've seen some fantastic HP figures...and I've seen some dyno figures...here's a couple of samples of HP figures from memory.
Nissan Titan...305 HP at the flywheel 266 on the dyno.
Dodge Ram.....335 HP at the flywheel 242 on the dyno.
The Titan lost about 11%...the Dodge lost over 20%
I can just imagine how much HP the GM trucks will loose over their inflated claims...especially considering the OHV (cam in block) 2 valves per cylinder engine they're running.
I would really like someone to explain how on earth anyone can build an automatic drivetrain with less driveline loss than a manual tranny.
I'd have to call a BS on this one ...
Cheers
Bubba
Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hi.
I would really like someone to explain how on earth anyone can build an automatic drivetrain with less driveline loss than a manual tranny.
I'd have to call a BS on this one ...
Cheers
Bubba
I would really like someone to explain how on earth anyone can build an automatic drivetrain with less driveline loss than a manual tranny.
I'd have to call a BS on this one ...
Cheers
Bubba
The figures I posted came (from memory) from Automotive News. they had an article last year on inflated HP ratings...and how this ad ploy was right out of the 1950's, during the first HP race.


