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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Wow Matt, that's damn good looking. Man your truck rocks.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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I'll post pics this weekend of the output from my HID headlights and foglights...talk about lighting up the night.

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What about your high beams? Does it bother you not being able to use them, or does the light output make up for it?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:00 AM
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He did a complete retrofit so he still has high beams.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt 05'FX4
I would not get 8000K, those are WAYYY too blue. 6000K would be the highest I would go. The 5000K I have are very blue when you first fire them up and pure white when heated up. They are much whiter/bluer than any other car on the road. The kit is like the one listed here.......
Re: this setup on Ebay, is it 'plug and play' or do you have to splice in for power somewhere? I just put Silverstars in this morning all around but would love to do a HID mod for the fogs. '05 SuperCrew.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Does anyone know of an HID setup for the '06+ round fog lights? Or would this kit still work?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Re: this setup on Ebay, is it 'plug and play' or do you have to splice in for power somewhere? I just put Silverstars in this morning all around but would love to do a HID mod for the fogs. '05 SuperCrew.
You plug your harness into the box that it comes with and then that runs back out to the HID bulb, so yes it is completely plug and play. Some here say that the initial draw that the HID's have will burn out the harness over time, even though they use less wattage once burning (about 35 watts). This may be true and if you want to prevent this you can run a relay for the power directly to 12V but I have been running mine for a while now and no problems so far. I did the high beam mod so if I flip on my high beams the HID's don't turn off. Having them turn on and off every time you flip your high beams on is hell on HID bulbs and their longevity and would further increase this risk of drawing too much power all the time on startup.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt 05'FX4
You plug your harness into the box that it comes with and then that runs back out to the HID bulb, so yes it is completely plug and play. Some here say that the initial draw that the HID's have will burn out the harness over time, even though they use less wattage once burning (about 35 watts). This may be true and if you want to prevent this you can run a relay for the power directly to 12V but I have been running mine for a while now and no problems so far. I did the high beam mod so if I flip on my high beams the HID's don't turn off. Having them turn on and off every time you flip your high beams on is hell on HID bulbs and their longevity and would further increase this risk of drawing too much power all the time on startup.
Hi Matt... can you elaborate on the 'draw' problem when you kick the HID on? I'm on the verge of buying this kit as well...

Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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A HID ballast can draw up to 17Amps during inital startup while the system tries to sustain an arc across the electrodes. Multiply this by 2 (2 ballasts) and it puts a good load on your OE harness which isnt designed for this amount.
HID Kits take longer to sustain this arc compared to OE components and a longer time to arc will stress the harness more.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HIDPLANET
A HID ballast can draw up to 17Amps during inital startup while the system tries to sustain an arc across the electrodes. Multiply this by 2 (2 ballasts) and it puts a good load on your OE harness which isnt designed for this amount.
HID Kits take longer to sustain this arc compared to OE components and a longer time to arc will stress the harness more.
Thanks bud. I appreciate that insight.

So, I suppose what you're saying is that one should probably consider upgrading the harness prior to installing something of this magnitude for both safety and performance reasons?

How would one go about upgrading the harness?

THANKS!

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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Thanks bud. I appreciate that insight.

So, I suppose what you're saying is that one should probably consider upgrading the harness prior to installing something of this magnitude for both safety and performance reasons?

How would one go about upgrading the harness?

THANKS!

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use relays
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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good info guys. Any thoughts on a 3000k HID kit for the fogs? Puts off a yellowish tint light...very useful for fog. Anyone know what kinda output that would give off...or is it better just going with a 5000k like mentioned? Ive seen luxury cars having this, one being the caddy cts. Love the look of the front end...yellow HID fogs, white/blue-ish HID projectors in the headlamps.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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use relays
Right-o. Gotcha there. Could you elaborate on where though? I'm just about as electrically stupid as they come... remember, be as 'elementary' with a response as you possibly can. You may think it's stupid to type it all out but, your help will be greatly appreciated -- your crown will have another jewel. No, reallly... I'm a dumbarse when it comes to stuff like this.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Right-o. Gotcha there. Could you elaborate on where though? I'm just about as electrically stupid as they come... remember, be as 'elementary' with a response as you possibly can. You may think it's stupid to type it all out but, your help will be greatly appreciated -- your crown will have another jewel. No, reallly... I'm a dumbarse when it comes to stuff like this.
You will need to splice or tap into your wiring harness, and install the relay so that when you activate your headlight switch, the relay will switch the power for your HID's directly to your battery..
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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You will need to splice or tap into your wiring harness, and install the relay so that when you activate your headlight switch, the relay will switch the power for your HID's directly to your battery..
It's starting to emerge from 'muddy' water to 'murky' water at this point...

How would one go about determining what relay you'd need to accomplish this task? Also, can anyone elaborate about how it works?... Gosh, I wish I'd paid more attention during the circuits section in Physics. LOL!

I mean, the electrical signal goes from the switch in the cab down the wire to the relay. At that point, the relay shuts off the 'normal' power circuit and starts pulling power immediately from the battery rather than through the normal DC circuit that would've powered the lights?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
It's starting to emerge from 'muddy' water to 'murky' water at this point...

How would one go about determining what relay you'd need to accomplish this task? Also, can anyone elaborate about how it works?... Gosh, I wish I'd paid more attention during the circuits section in Physics. LOL!

I mean, the electrical signal goes from the switch in the cab down the wire to the relay. At that point, the relay shuts off the 'normal' power circuit and starts pulling power immediately from the battery rather than through the normal DC circuit that would've powered the lights?

a relay is just that... a relay. instead of having the power go throught the harness to the HID ballasts and then back to the harness and ground the harness sends the power to the relay then grounds out... then the relay then pulls directly from the battery instead of through the harness to power the ballasts. they are niffly little buggers
 
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