ok so im torn between the 6" Fabtech with DL Coilovers or the RCD 6" kit, my question is what is the better kit?!?!?!?!?

 

Man, if I could afford it, I'd have the Rize 8" w/ 37" tires!!! Just my preference... I have heard good about fabtech (to keep your post on track)

 

Honestly, I'd go with the RCD.

 

I think the RCD is a little bit better. But the Fabtech is a good lift overall.

 

I'm so tired of the animosity/rivalry between the kits...most of these people arguing are street queens anyway and the rest have no idea of what their kit consists of firsthand (Ayresusn and a few others do on the other hand). There is not going to be a huge difference in kits, especially when the components are so ****ing identical (RCD and Fabtech are so similar it's laughable to think they didn't have a demo of one another during design/production). Rize is probably the best kit out for the F-150 in terms of design goals, they focus on a weaklink in our steering racks and they have a 6" as well. You will not notice much of a difference in the kits other than ride height, steering (depending on tierod mount on knuckle) and ride, which is based on supplied shocks. If you're not going to push the limits there is nothing to be concerned about, the ride with the bilsteins will be better than the rear Fabtech supplied shocks, but the Dirt Logic (swayaway) coilovers are quite nice on the other hand...no comparison to King's which can go on either kit. To answer your question, you won't notice a difference other than ride. The drop bracketry, subframes, etc are identical other than the knuckles and a few other small items. I would never lift an F150 again, ever with the intentions I have. It's funny I've broke down so often compared to the guys who claim they offroad to the point of abuse...give me a break. I love my F150 but it just can't hold up to the abuse as some call it, might start work on an older pickup to pull in tow to the OHV parks. The Fabtech was great until the steering rack snapped, and the Rize took care of that. What more do you want...other than coilovers. I'd go with Rize if I was dumb enough to lift this 150 again, it's a tough truck but was not meant to take what the avid wheeler intends to throw at it. You can certainly lift this truck and it will do fine but any serious wheeling and you'd better throw in the towel. I'm stressed right now so forgive my angry insertions but everyone likes to throw their opinion out there as the gospel, whom most have no idea what they're talking about. Some do but just read about their lift experience if you smell bs.

 

Go with the RCD kit. I deliver to these guys and their products are awesome! I seen one of their trucks with the 6 inch kit and king coilovers on it...BADASS!!!!

 

edited my post, give me a break.

 

so whats the deal on the rize kit? where can i find more info on it? cause there website doesnt really have good info? Thanks

 

Josiah. I agree that the RCD and Fabtech lifts are pretty close in their designs just as MOST lifts for the 04+ F-150s. As you know everyone has their opinion and they are entitled to that. I do have first hand experience to the RCD lift and the Fabtech lift, I've helped install both on 2003 F-150s. I'd have to say that the RCD was a nicer lift. We're not talking about leaps and bounds better but just slightly. The quality of the parts were better, fitment was better, strength, and the ride was amazing compared to the Fabtech, hate to say it.

What do you want to know?

PS: Im almost positive unless they changed their prices. The 6" lift and 8" lift are the same price.

 

Here are some pics of the RCD lift on an 06..

https://www.f150online.com/galleries....cfm?num=10020

 

umm well does the RCD or the Rize Come with new coilovers or just like better details on what the kits include and stuff like that and maybe somt better pics if the 6" rize if at all possible? Thanks!

 

If I had to do all over again (and I tried by putting my Fabtech up for sale)...I would go with the Rize lift. I like how they concentrated on the weak area of our trucks (as Josiah mentioned).

BTW, Josiah...I know you put your truck to use offroad...but, a major contributor to your failure was more than likely the added weight and size of your tires. Not a huge difference between 35" & 37", but Fabtech recommends 35" not only for clearance issues. I would like to know if you would have your (offroad) problems with the 8" Rize and your 37" tires under the same circumstances.

 

You do make a good point, I'm sure if you have the Fabtech lift, and your truck is a pavement pounder running 37's, you will not have any problems with any components.. I'f you plan on wheeling with the 37's and the fabtech, then you will have issues like Josiah..

 

and what does RIZE do to help the the problem with the steering? and what is the problem?

 

I will draw something up in photoshop when I get home.

Bryan, I like the way you approached this but I know I'd have had the same problems on 35's as I had with 37's, it's not a significant increase on the load % going from the 35-37. I would not have had these problems if I would have stuck to the mild situations offroad. The fabtech is very good at what it was designed to do, it has held up quite well. But it says nothing about the factory drivetrain doing the same. I would go with the Rize if you plan to offroad, spend the extra for it. I believe my shift motor inside the tcase is out and am going to replace it with a used one out of another F150, seems as if the fork is not engaging completely and therefore disengages under load. The steering rack will need a complete replacement, really can't just tear it down like the tcase. I will take pics when I do this.

As you know, a tire is basically a wrench on the end of the axle, the larger the diameter the more the leverage on the nut (axle). It's basically using a cheater bar, so a 35" can have a big effect on this as well. I hope you don't get me wrong, I love this F150 but it's impractical to beat on.