i have used two different dealers. You're from the DFW area so im sure you've heard of these dealers. First i used payton wright and they semi fixed it and my air conditioner, then i called them back and told them i wasnt satisfied with my air conditioner wasnt getting cold enough and they basically told me tough ****. This last time i took it to five star in NR hills and was very satisfied with their customer service, very nice people. Fixed the A/C but the brakes still suck. I called them today and told them that i was still having problems and not satisfied and they said theyd take another look at it.

 

I use Hillard in Ft. Worth. Of course a friend of mine always does my work there.

 

yea well im coming from the grapevine southlake area, so its already quite a journey just to get out to 5 star, plus i just love going 26 to 820, its not like theres ever any traffic over there

 

Drum brakes actually stop better in optimal conditions, but they do over heat, and lock up. But discs cant out perform the exponential power of the drum brakes, meaning the more you push down on the brake, the harder they get exponentially, compared to discs that are a fixed ratio.
-Patrick

 

Brakes: The Science of Stopping

Brakes basically take forward motion and reduce it to heat by applying friction—that's how the truck stops. However, heat build-up is an undesirable by-product that significantly affects braking performance. That's why Ford F-150 uses standard four-wheel vented discs and standard four-wheel ABS. Take a look at the basic brake types and you'll see why this makes good sense.

DRUM

For years, drum brakes were the standard. But the enclosed design of a drum brake meant that heat was "held in" and not quickly dissipated. Toyota uses rear drum brakes on the Tundra and the Chevrolet Silverado switched from disc brakes in '04 to drum brakes for '05 & '06.

DISC

The invention of disc brakes was a giant leap forward in brake design because an external caliper squeezing a disc meant that the heat created by braking was free to dissipate. Nissan uses disc brakes on the Titan, but they've chosen not to vent them.

VENTED DISC

The further innovation of "vented" disc brakes resulted in even better heat dissipation. The vents allow air to be pulled into the disc rotor itself, displacing heat through the top and around the wheel. This means that the brake recovers from quick, frequent or long-grade stops much more quickly.

In a market where every manufacturer likes to boast about their truck's ability to trailer and tow things—and understanding that stopping those things is of critical importance—it's not new information that brakes are a primary consideration in truck design.

With Ford F-150's standard four-wheel vented discs and standard four-wheel ABS, the choice is clear. Ford F-150 "brakes" the competition by making clear that The Truth About Trucks is as much about whoa! as it is about go!

 

I agree vented discs are nice, but that doesnt mean they are the best. They may be the most efficient for everyday use, and for longer drives where they get hotter, and cool faster. But you cannot over come the multiplicipal power of drum brakes. Drum brakes work better in optimal conditions, all tho they do lock up, and over heat, im not denying that. Im saying you have two cars one with disc one with drum, the drum brake will out stop it hands down in optimal conditions. The optimal conditions are cool-warm brakes, dry pavement, and decent to good tires.
-Patrick