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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Funny, I looked at my plugs after the tech took them out (TSB for spark knock) and they looked fine, no problems coming out. He said there were no problems whatsoever.
How any miles were on your truck?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kd4crs
How any miles were on your truck?
20K.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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They replaced all plugs under warranty while doing all the other warranty work I mentioned earlier. I just understand how they could break four, unless they just were not careful because it was warranty work with Ford paying for it, not the customer.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Yeah, I understand how they can break during removal. I think they get deposits on them according to driving conditions which causes them to come apart while removing them. I drive mine mostly highway and the old ones looked practically brand new. I guess it's just luck.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejay432000
There is a normal light ticking that comes from the injector system. The cam phaser tick is much louder.
Is it possible for the cam phaser to be an intermittent problem? well, it constantly happens when it is cold out and the engine is warming up, but after it warms up it goes away. I always thought my constant loud ticking noise was the cam phaser, it is a quite loud tick that you can hear it from inside the truck even when the windows are rolled up. The knocking sound is much louder and a scarier sound though, it sounds like a diesel truck when its cold outside.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bogman
Quinton:
Do I remember correctly that you are a service manager? I've read lots of your replies in the last year and you do know your stuff. So how can Ford engineer or mis-engineer a plug problem like this. Is there any cure? Does antisieze help?
I believe Quinton is a service tech., unless he got promoted. And yes, he does know his stuff. There was a guy on the forum within the last year that said his uncle was one of the guys that designed that plug. If I was him, I'd have bought his uncle the dunce hat the moment he was stupid enough to admit to it. The problem is in design and engineering things are to closely controlled, they were probably pull'in those plugs out every 5k to see how they were do'in. Put the thing out in the oil fields or on a farm to do the real world testing and those plugs would have never seen the light of day. Once the horse is out of the barn, (in production and being sold) they've got to deny they have a problem or it would cost them a gazillion dollars.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Yeah, I understand how they can break during removal. I think they get deposits on them according to driving conditions which causes them to come apart while removing them. I drive mine mostly highway and the old ones looked practically brand new. I guess it's just luck.
Here's a theory: I think driving conditions might a big factor in how easily the plugs come out. If its rust causing the plugs to be in tight then trucks which take short trips and sit a lot would see more of this problem. On the other hand, those who get their engine good and hot daily would have cleaner plugs. The fix then would be to run all your errands at one time, and walk some of those short trips.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikedom
Just curious, what dealer finally did the work. I am in WI also...I have a fairly loud tick I know to be the cam phasers, but my dealer, (Hiller) said everything is normal....Mike
Hiller is good, but they are small. Kayser in Madison is huge.

Griffen has a good service dept also. Did you try them?

Your always better off if you can research the problem here, and ask the dealer to check into a specific issue or TSB. I've had a lot of success doing just that with Griffin and Best (now Uptown).
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bluejay432000
There is a normal light ticking that comes from the injector system. The cam phaser tick is much louder.
Can you quiet the ticking sound with a good fuel injector cleaner? do the 07 and 08 still have this issue?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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does anyone know the tsb numbers? i would like to get this taken care of soon. sounds like i have a psd in my truck
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Since my original, and dire question got buried by posts i'd like to re-post it so i could get an answer. I've read through this thread, and no-one address my specific problem.

The original question:
Is it possible for the cam phaser to be an intermittent problem? well, it constantly happens when it is cold out and the engine is warming up, but after it warms up it goes away. I always thought my constant loud ticking noise was the cam phaser, it is a quite loud tick that you can hear it from inside the truck even when the windows are rolled up. The knocking sound is much louder and a scarier sound though, it sounds like a diesel truck when its cold outside.

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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by apeiron
Since my original, and dire question got buried by posts i'd like to re-post it so i could get an answer. I've read through this thread, and no-one address my specific problem.

The original question:
Is it possible for the cam phaser to be an intermittent problem? well, it constantly happens when it is cold out and the engine is warming up, but after it warms up it goes away. I always thought my constant loud ticking noise was the cam phaser, it is a quite loud tick that you can hear it from inside the truck even when the windows are rolled up. The knocking sound is much louder and a scarier sound though, it sounds like a diesel truck when its cold outside.

P&BB

-Nick
Mine sounded that way at 500 miles and still sounds that way now. And I'm Roushcharged. It's gotten slightly worse over the years.

Guess what, no issues with the engine at 41,000 miles. Sure it's annoying but I wouldn't worry about it too much. No performance problems here either. And I run it HARD often.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Stealth,

Do you know the TSB number for the spark knock you referenced?
 
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