Get rid of electronic throttle
Get rid of electronic throttle
I test drove a new '07 GMC Z-71 1500 crewcab just for the hell of it. I'm not crazy about the truck, but the throttle response is so much better than the electric ***** on the Ford. Man, i wish Ford would get rid of it!!! This truck feels like it has 100 more hp. My lease ends in October and if I don't get a F-250 I may consider the GMC just because of the throttle response and drivability. Test drive one and see for yourself. What can we do about this terrible acceleration?
Originally Posted by mikey88
What can we do about this terrible acceleration?
what can we do? Just as you suggested. Buy another truck. If Ford loses 50,000 sales due to drivability issues, they will address them.
Continuing to buy them won't force Ford to change anything.
And the more people claim they bleed Ford blue and would "rather push a Ford than drive a Chevy" the less incentive Ford has to change.
Just look at the Ranger or Econoline for proof of that.
I would rather be happy in a Chev than unhappy in a Ford. With that much money on the line, I don't feel the need to be brand loyal.
why should someone have to spend money on an aftermarket tuner that may void your warranty just to get the drivability that all of the competitiors have from the factory?
Why should someone have to run premium fuel to keep up with a Hemi or Endurance?
Sorry, that answer if what lost the car market to Toyota and Honda.
Say what you will, but the biggest beefs about the Tundra were size and availability of a bigger V8. Guess what? They've answered both those questions. That could be an additional 50,000 units [per year to Toyota.
Titan? Biggest beef is the look. Hey, doesn't take much to redesign the grill and headlights.
Botton line. Customers should not have to pay out of pocket to make their vehicle as enjoyable to drive as others are from the factory.
Why should someone have to run premium fuel to keep up with a Hemi or Endurance?
Sorry, that answer if what lost the car market to Toyota and Honda.
Say what you will, but the biggest beefs about the Tundra were size and availability of a bigger V8. Guess what? They've answered both those questions. That could be an additional 50,000 units [per year to Toyota.
Titan? Biggest beef is the look. Hey, doesn't take much to redesign the grill and headlights.
Botton line. Customers should not have to pay out of pocket to make their vehicle as enjoyable to drive as others are from the factory.
Originally Posted by J-150
why should someone have to spend money on an aftermarket tuner that may void your warranty just to get the drivability that all of the competitiors have from the factory?
Maybe its time then to start thinking about trading in for a GMC. It sounds like your losing any love towards Ford pretty quickly.
The truth is it's just a matter of time before all the manufacturers are using this technology. Ford was just the first one out of the box to put it in a light duty pickup.
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Originally Posted by Tbird69
The truth is it's just a matter of time before all the manufacturers are using this technology. Ford was just the first one out of the box to put it in a light duty pickup. 

I have no problem with the technology.
I have a problem with the technology not working properly. Other manufacturers use it too... but they dont have the same throttle lag issues.
I thought all of the new GMs were drive by wire as well? My 04 Colorado (biggest POS I've ever owned) was. I believe my father-in-law's Silverado SS is as well.
While I can't speak for J, I don't think it's the love of Ford that's lost, it's just the fact that they always seem to be one step behind the others when it comes to HP, PCM technology, etc.
With that being said though, I agree that it's all about sales. Until the day Ford execs see a GM truck outselling the F-series, why should they change a thing?
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BTW - The Edge doesn't completely fix it either. I still have a noticable lag after installing an Edge. It's not enough to make me want to trade for another truck line though.
Originally Posted by ChappyFX4
Maybe its time then to start thinking about trading in for a GMC. It sounds like your losing any love towards Ford pretty quickly.
With that being said though, I agree that it's all about sales. Until the day Ford execs see a GM truck outselling the F-series, why should they change a thing?
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BTW - The Edge doesn't completely fix it either. I still have a noticable lag after installing an Edge. It's not enough to make me want to trade for another truck line though.
Last edited by ericd; Jul 12, 2006 at 11:33 AM.
Originally Posted by J-150
I have no problem with the technology.
I have a problem with the technology not working properly. Other manufacturers use it too... but they dont have the same throttle lag issues.
I have a problem with the technology not working properly. Other manufacturers use it too... but they dont have the same throttle lag issues.
Originally Posted by Tbird69
those other manufacturers have also been using it for years. This is still new technology for Ford.

then perhaps it should have been used in a niche vehicle and perfected it before putting it in the bigeest selling model they have.
Originally Posted by J-150
then perhaps it should have been used in a niche vehicle and perfected it before putting it in the bigeest selling model they have.
Ford could put a Mercedes style system in but then it would cost $60,000 and up to buy one.
Originally Posted by J-150
why should someone have to spend money on an aftermarket tuner that may void your warranty just to get the drivability that all of the competitiors have from the factory?
Why should someone have to run premium fuel to keep up with a Hemi or Endurance?
Sorry, that answer if what lost the car market to Toyota and Honda.
Say what you will, but the biggest beefs about the Tundra were size and availability of a bigger V8. Guess what? They've answered both those questions. That could be an additional 50,000 units [per year to Toyota.
Titan? Biggest beef is the look. Hey, doesn't take much to redesign the grill and headlights.
Botton line. Customers should not have to pay out of pocket to make their vehicle as enjoyable to drive as others are from the factory.
Why should someone have to run premium fuel to keep up with a Hemi or Endurance?
Sorry, that answer if what lost the car market to Toyota and Honda.
Say what you will, but the biggest beefs about the Tundra were size and availability of a bigger V8. Guess what? They've answered both those questions. That could be an additional 50,000 units [per year to Toyota.
Titan? Biggest beef is the look. Hey, doesn't take much to redesign the grill and headlights.
Botton line. Customers should not have to pay out of pocket to make their vehicle as enjoyable to drive as others are from the factory.
Originally Posted by J-150
why should someone have to spend money on an aftermarket tuner that may void your warranty just to get the drivability that all of the competitiors have from the factory?
Why should someone have to run premium fuel to keep up with a Hemi or Endurance?
Sorry, that answer if what lost the car market to Toyota and Honda.
Say what you will, but the biggest beefs about the Tundra were size and availability of a bigger V8. Guess what? They've answered both those questions. That could be an additional 50,000 units [per year to Toyota.
Titan? Biggest beef is the look. Hey, doesn't take much to redesign the grill and headlights.
Botton line. Customers should not have to pay out of pocket to make their vehicle as enjoyable to drive as others are from the factory.
Why should someone have to run premium fuel to keep up with a Hemi or Endurance?
Sorry, that answer if what lost the car market to Toyota and Honda.
Say what you will, but the biggest beefs about the Tundra were size and availability of a bigger V8. Guess what? They've answered both those questions. That could be an additional 50,000 units [per year to Toyota.
Titan? Biggest beef is the look. Hey, doesn't take much to redesign the grill and headlights.
Botton line. Customers should not have to pay out of pocket to make their vehicle as enjoyable to drive as others are from the factory.


