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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver05
I don't know how its intalled but my Daystar works with my Fabtech.
The EZ lift did work by the means of being installed, but my CV angles were to great and I didnt want to risk it. But they did install just fine...well, at least one. I just cranked down my coilover to level the other side (so I could check the cv angles).

To great of a CV angle is what I meant by they didn't work.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brypink2
The EZ lift did work by the means of being installed, but my CV angles were to great and I didnt want to risk it. But they did install just fine...well, at least one. I just cranked down my coilover to level the other side (so I could check the cv angles).

To great of a CV angle is what I meant by they didn't work.
Not to highjack this thread, but there is an inherent problem with people saying that the CV angle is too great. Turning! The CV joint was a revolutionary achievement to "fix" the front wheel drive car, and thus allowing this configuration to work for cornering purposes. The angles that are experienced when just turning the steering wheel on a STOCK 4X4 are much greater that the angles experienced by the half-shafts in the front end when full off suspension. Sorry, just had to be said.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KSpencer
Not to highjack this thread, but there is an inherent problem with people saying that the CV angle is too great. Turning! The CV joint was a revolutionary achievement to "fix" the front wheel drive car, and thus allowing this configuration to work for cornering purposes. The angles that are experienced when just turning the steering wheel on a STOCK 4X4 are much greater that the angles experienced by the half-shafts in the front end when full off suspension. Sorry, just had to be said.
Then why is it such a concern when installing a lift? I'm not the only one that recommends to keep the half shafts close to stock as possible. All my mechanic/wheeler friends say the same...don't do it.

Just a thought...if they get at a greater angle when turning at stock position, wouldn't putting them at a great angle when not turning make it even worse when you are turning? Especially, in 4WD?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by brypink2
Then why is it such a concern when installing a lift? I'm not the only one that recommends to keep the half shafts close to stock as possible. All my mechanic/wheeler friends say the same...don't do it.

Just a thought...if they get at a greater angle when turning at stock position, wouldn't putting them at a great angle when not turning make it even worse when you are turning? Especially, in 4WD?
Not really. The turning angle is always a "fixed" angle from the driveshaft, meaning that you never move the half shaft forwards or backwards only up and down. Anyway, what I am trying to explain is difficult to do with a keyboard. These CV joints are designed to run at angles of up to 45 degrees (turning the wheels) without any regular failures. Keeping this in mind, you will never get to this extreme angle by articulating the suspension even (maybe 35 degrees) with a spacer at full off load. If this were the case, then you would see tons of threads headed "CV joint failure with spacers". To date, I have not heard of a single failure of this kind on an 04 or newer. I think that most people get into trouble when they add larger/heavier tire/rim combinations that add much more stress (some about 100 lbs per wheel) to anything stock or modified ride heigth. When you add a lift, you are talking about increases of 3 inches or more all the way around. My spacer added about 2 inches of front lift, which is less than full-off suspension stock, so I'm not too worried. The lift added a whole different angle to things, since you must use drop-brackets and rotate the rear end to regain the proper pinion-driveshaft angle. On top of this, there is a possibility of ball joints not lasting as long as stock, but as mentioned in another thread, the price difference in getting a spacer to lift will pay for alot of ball joints. Things will break at their weakest link which is usually the tall gearing, tranny, or perhaps the CV joints when adding weight. I did not mean to cause disharmony in this thread, but this is just what I think of this type of mod.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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Also just to throw in....
You do not need a leveling kit to fit that size tire under the truck. Mine came from the factory ordered with that size. It didnt rub at all. They said that I would need a leveling kit if I would have went with the 35s. By the way...
the 295 70 17s are equivelant to 33s.


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Ooops, I just re-read that you are a 4x2. I have a 4x4 so that may be considerably different.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TCC-
How much for the add-a-leaf shipped to 74033?
ok i looked up shippin how bout 80 shiped? i paid 95 for it
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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I have a 2.5 daystar but a 2 inch would be fine not much difference in the kits, check my gallery out I have some pic's with 295/75R17's on 8 inch wheels I paid $180 each at my local tire store no shipping charges
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Nice looking truck. What kind of tires are those? I have 18" tires on my 2006 SCREW right now and those would great.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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I went with the 2" Autosprings. I have a 04 FX4. I just installed it tonight and it looks great. No pics yet though. Like everyone has said it's a very simple install.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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I just bought the AS 2.5" leveling kit off of another member on here. Really looking forward to getting it installed, hopefully this weekend if I get it in time. Now to do some tire shopping, probably gonna stick with the 18" stock rims for now and save up for some nicer ones a little down the road.

What type tires do some of you recommend? Remember my truck is a 06 SCREW 4X2 and never leaves the pavement, but I do want an aggressive looking tire. I have looked at the Nitto Mud Graplers and Toyo AT Open Country, of course those seem to be out of stock. Are there any really good BF ones?
 
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