Re-occuring theme: Dissapointed in MPG
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From: In a van down by the river
Originally Posted by hmfic
Just filled up today. For the ENTIRE tank I got 10.5 mph. That is about 96% city driving in the winter. Thats also with the Edge on level 2. My last tank was at 12. The only difference now is that I have a Magnaflow si/so. Hope that is not that problem.
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I can get 18 highway if I keep it at 55 with my air conditioning off running on flat ground. 14 can be achieved in the city if I run with slow accelerations, easy breaking and no accessories on.
They are possible just very VERY difficult to maintain. Ford is no different than any other manufacturer in this regard.
They are possible just very VERY difficult to maintain. Ford is no different than any other manufacturer in this regard.
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There is nothing different I could have done this weekend to have received better mileage, short of getting out of the truck and pushing.
I just don't want to tolerate Ford and other auto manufacturers making false claims about performance, and when it comes to 1/2 ton mpg, Ford's is the worst!
I just don't want to tolerate Ford and other auto manufacturers making false claims about performance, and when it comes to 1/2 ton mpg, Ford's is the worst!
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From: Pikesville, MD
Originally Posted by nad1967
There is nothing different I could have done this weekend to have received better mileage, short of getting out of the truck and pushing.
I just don't want to tolerate Ford and other auto manufacturers making false claims about performance, and when it comes to 1/2 ton mpg, Ford's is the worst!
I just don't want to tolerate Ford and other auto manufacturers making false claims about performance, and when it comes to 1/2 ton mpg, Ford's is the worst!
I understand what you are saying but Ford isnt unique
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0715/p...mgn.html?s=rel
Fuel-economy numbers the EPA pastes on car windows overstate actual results by at least 10 percent, according to a UCS analysis of Energy Information Administration data. Those sticker numbers are themselves derived, in part, from formulas.
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• Highway speeds. The EPA highway test sets an average speed of 48 miles per hour and a top speed of 60 m.p.h. - despite the fact many states have raised their limit to 65 m.p.h. or higher. Fuel economy can fall by 17 percent for vehicles going at a more typical 70 m.p.h.
• Traffic jams. In 1982, urban congestion added seven hours a year to the average person's annual travel, UCS says, compared with 26 hours a year in 2001. In its petition, Bluewater cited a study of 68 US urban areas in which delays rose from 11 hours in 1982 to 36 hours in 1999.
• Quick starts. Maximum acceleration in the EPA test is 3.3 m.p.h. per second, about the same as zero-to-60 m.p.h. in 18 seconds. The typical new truck or car can accelerate almost twice as fast. The EPA's own data, UCS says, show that people accelerate about five times as fast as the test.
• Air conditioning. The EPA fuel-economy tests are run with air conditioning off, even though 99 percent of all cars and trucks have it, UCS says.
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• Highway speeds. The EPA highway test sets an average speed of 48 miles per hour and a top speed of 60 m.p.h. - despite the fact many states have raised their limit to 65 m.p.h. or higher. Fuel economy can fall by 17 percent for vehicles going at a more typical 70 m.p.h.
• Traffic jams. In 1982, urban congestion added seven hours a year to the average person's annual travel, UCS says, compared with 26 hours a year in 2001. In its petition, Bluewater cited a study of 68 US urban areas in which delays rose from 11 hours in 1982 to 36 hours in 1999.
• Quick starts. Maximum acceleration in the EPA test is 3.3 m.p.h. per second, about the same as zero-to-60 m.p.h. in 18 seconds. The typical new truck or car can accelerate almost twice as fast. The EPA's own data, UCS says, show that people accelerate about five times as fast as the test.
• Air conditioning. The EPA fuel-economy tests are run with air conditioning off, even though 99 percent of all cars and trucks have it, UCS says.
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From: Burleson/Athens/Brownsboro, TX
Originally Posted by nad1967
There is nothing different I could have done this weekend to have received better mileage, short of getting out of the truck and pushing.
I just don't want to tolerate Ford and other auto manufacturers making false claims about performance, and when it comes to 1/2 ton mpg, Ford's is the worst!
I just don't want to tolerate Ford and other auto manufacturers making false claims about performance, and when it comes to 1/2 ton mpg, Ford's is the worst!
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I have a bone stock regular cab '04 4X4 with 5.4 and 3.73 gears. I adjusted my driving habits to gentle acceleration and gentle slowing down and I get almost exactly the 14/18 on the window sticker. In very cold weather, my local mileage may drop to 13 and under perfect conditions, my highway mileage will be just under 20. I drive 5 MPH over the posted speed limit. I have a 98 Town Car and a 2001 Escape and also get what the window sticker says.
If you keep your car maintained, the tires inflated properly, don't haul extra weight and drive gently, you can come close to the posted mileage. My son-in-law can drive my vehicles on the exact same route as me and he gets far less mileage and my wife gets a little better. The best fuel saving device and the worst fuel waster is attached to your ankle.
If you keep your car maintained, the tires inflated properly, don't haul extra weight and drive gently, you can come close to the posted mileage. My son-in-law can drive my vehicles on the exact same route as me and he gets far less mileage and my wife gets a little better. The best fuel saving device and the worst fuel waster is attached to your ankle.
This is with a 5.4 4wd SCREW and a LS 3.73 rear. I have seen as high as 18 with mixed driving, but no less then 15.
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Dang...I'm real happy with the truck then. I average about 15-16 in town, and about 19 on the highway. I drive the speed limit in town, (not in any hurry) and average 77 mph on the road.
04 Screw 5.4 no engine mods. K&N drop in. Stock suspension and tires.
You guys are making me reconsider the whole tune and exhaust thing.
04 Screw 5.4 no engine mods. K&N drop in. Stock suspension and tires.
You guys are making me reconsider the whole tune and exhaust thing.
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From: Northern CA
I can get up to 24mpg on the highway, and just today I was getting a consistent 26mpg at 55-57mph. I get absolutely DREADFUL mileage in town, about 8-9mpg, impossible to get any higher. I find it very odd I have such a large gap in my highway/city mileage but I promise you it's right. I have a short video from driving today in fact and you can see I am getting 21 or 22mpg consistently. The lariats have the MPG display, very nice feature, sort of like a vacuum gauge.
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From: Plano, TEXAS
Originally Posted by nad1967
Is it just me or when you look at the sticker on a new truck's window and it says 14city/18hwy you can expect to get something similar to that when you drive the truck?
I have never had better than 14mpg in my truck... open hwy 300+ miles cruisin at 65mph.
What the heck is going on here? I bought the Extang RT tonneau and thought I'd see a difference after a couple thousand of miles... nothing. I know these trucks are bricks but come'on, I've never got close to 18mpg and would be thrilled if I got 16mpg.
Any tips? under-drive pulleys, e-fans, and then what?
I have never had better than 14mpg in my truck... open hwy 300+ miles cruisin at 65mph.
What the heck is going on here? I bought the Extang RT tonneau and thought I'd see a difference after a couple thousand of miles... nothing. I know these trucks are bricks but come'on, I've never got close to 18mpg and would be thrilled if I got 16mpg.
Any tips? under-drive pulleys, e-fans, and then what?
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From: Georgia on my mind...
Originally Posted by nad1967
Don't everyone take this the wrong way but this isn't about what mileage you're getting... it's about how off the charts Ford advertises the mileage for these trucks.
I don't think that 14/18 is accurate. Why? Because all I ever see is 14mpg. I should not have to throw several hundred dollars at my truck to get it to perform similarly to what the factory claims it should already be performing.
I don't think that 14/18 is accurate. Why? Because all I ever see is 14mpg. I should not have to throw several hundred dollars at my truck to get it to perform similarly to what the factory claims it should already be performing.
On the window sticker, it also says:
Actual mileage will vary with options, driving conditions, driving habits and vehicle's condition. Results reported to the EPA indicate that the majority of vehicles with these estimates (15/19 in my case) will achieve between 12 and 18 mpg in the city and between 16 and 22 mpg on the highway.
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