2004 - 2008 F-150
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Real Truck

Calling Any 2005 FX4 Supercrews With Column Shift ONLY

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 08:29 PM
  #31  
FX4andHARLEY's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Likes: 1
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by ericd
Share the love bro - There are others waiting with baited breath for this info!



E...

Sorry, I didn’t realize.

So, now we know the unused Floor Console wiring harness, shown in one of my gallery pictures tucked away just below the right side of the radio is not included in all trucks. Why this connector is included in a Regular Cab truck like mine that has no option for a floor console and not in the SCREW that does have the option of having a console is beyond me.

This just means that the conversion for you guys without this connector just got a little more involved. I’ve put together an instruction sheet and wiring diagram and added them to my Console Install Gallery. These instructions are for a 2005 truck only, I don’t have a wiring diagram for any other years and I don’t know if it is the same. Also, there are no guarantees that this will work, although I think it should and would wire my truck like this if I where doing the conversion without the factory Floor Console harness. Basically you’re just extending wiring from the steering column where you no longer need it to the floor shifter where you do.

FX4&EXCURSION will be the first to use this on his massive Dash and Console conversion project so we’ll all find out how it works out.
 
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 10:49 PM
  #32  
ericd's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
From: New Eagle, PA USA
Originally Posted by FX4andHARLEY
Sorry, I didn’t realize...
No biggie. Just figured there were other lurkers like myself scratching their heads over this one...

Did you decide what you're doing with the front opening on your console yet? Looking at your pics, I was thinking that it wouldn't be much work to fab a tray that blends to the original pocket on the dash (under the slide out cup holders/ashtray). Does the width of the top trim opening work out to be close to the same as that pocket?

FX4&EX - During your grand transformation, did you happen to notice if the floor of your screw already had a hole for the floor shift cable? Just trying to get an idea of where to look for it. (With my luck, it'll be under the ductwork that runs back to the rear floor!)

E...
 
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:04 PM
  #33  
FX4andHARLEY's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Likes: 1
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by ericd

Did you decide what you're doing with the front opening on your console yet? Looking at your pics, I was thinking that it wouldn't be much work to fab a tray that blends to the original pocket on the dash (under the slide out cup holders/ashtray). Does the width of the top trim opening work out to be close to the same as that pocket?

E...
You read my mind, using the top dash tray as a starting point to fab up a tray for the console is exactly what I had in mind. And yes the top tray is the correct width for the pocket at the bottom. The problem is that top tray list for a ridiculous $178.00 from my local dealer and $122.65 at Ford Parts Online. That’s crazy for a little plastic part like that. So I’m still looking on eBay.
 
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:23 PM
  #34  
bigtom21's Avatar
Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Fontana, Ca
My 04 fx4 has the cable, though I have no intensions of converting to the flow-thru.
 
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:34 PM
  #35  
ericd's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
From: New Eagle, PA USA
Originally Posted by FX4andHARLEY
You read my mind, using the top dash tray as a starting point to fab up a tray for the console is exactly what I had in mind. And yes the top tray is the correct width for the pocket at the bottom. The problem is that top tray list for a ridiculous $178.00 from my local dealer and $122.65 at Ford Parts Online. That’s crazy for a little plastic part like that. So I’m still looking on eBay.
So a console top trim piece with cup holders lists for $43, but the plain tray up top is $178!! D@mn, they need to pass a little bit of what they're smokin' this way...

Does that include the rubber mat, or is that another $75?!?

Man, finding a totaled 04 or 05 right now would be sweet...

E...
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 09:05 AM
  #36  
FX4&EXCURSION's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 0
From: Ashburn, Virginia
Originally Posted by ericd
No biggie. Just figured there were other lurkers like myself scratching their heads over this one...

Did you decide what you're doing with the front opening on your console yet? Looking at your pics, I was thinking that it wouldn't be much work to fab a tray that blends to the original pocket on the dash (under the slide out cup holders/ashtray). Does the width of the top trim opening work out to be close to the same as that pocket?

FX4&EX - During your grand transformation, did you happen to notice if the floor of your screw already had a hole for the floor shift cable? Just trying to get an idea of where to look for it. (With my luck, it'll be under the ductwork that runs back to the rear floor!)

E...
I haven't found the hole yet, with my luck, it's probably not there. If not, FX4, where is the best place to drill for it? My shifter cable comes Friday.
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 06:56 PM
  #37  
FX4andHARLEY's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Likes: 1
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by FX4&EXCURSION
I haven't found the hole yet, with my luck, it's probably not there. If not, FX4, where is the best place to drill for it? My shifter cable comes Friday.
Fx4&EXCURSION, in your “Part Schematics” gallery (Flow Through Console Schematic) isn’t that the hole on the transmission tunnel right at the front near the firewall (towards the driver’s side)? When I was under my truck there was an unused hole in the insulation that looked like it would line up with the one in that schematic. I didn’t drill my hole there because I couldn’t reach that spot with a drill from the top or bottom. The question I have for you is, what’s the location of the hole for your column shifter cable? Mine was on the firewall, to far away for the floor shifter cable to reach. If yours is where I’m talking about in the above schematic then you can use the same hole. The location I did drill my hole is probably under your rear floor ductwork. If you look at my gallery and you follow the cable down at an angle through the carpet and pad, that’s where I drilled. I don’t have any rear floor ductwork to get in the way. Under the floor my cable runs between the floor and the insulation until it reaches that hole in the insulation where I fed it out and looped it back to attach to the trans.
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 07:01 PM
  #38  
-TXF150-'s Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,376
Likes: 2
From: Plano, TEXAS
I heve the connector.
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 07:16 PM
  #39  
FX4&EXCURSION's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 0
From: Ashburn, Virginia
Originally Posted by -TXF150-
I heve the connector.
Are you teasin me I would love to buy it if you can spare it! I'd be mucho obliged to ya bro. Let me know!

FX4, yep that's the hole. I can see it clearly underneath the truck. Nice round hole outlined by the underbody insulation. But I have the same problem in the cab, it's behind the HVAC unit. The column shifter hole is about 2 o'clock, on the firewall, from the steering column, it being 12 o'clock. It does look like too much of a stretch to reach with the floor cable. I am considering drilling on the side of the trans tunnel above the gas pedal close to where the firewall begins, but I think I will wait until my cable arrives to gauge its length and see how well it flexes while not kinking up.
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 07:28 PM
  #40  
FX4andHARLEY's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Likes: 1
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by FX4&EXCURSION
FX4, yep that's the hole. I can see it clearly underneath the truck. Nice round hole outlined by the underbody insulation. But I have the same problem in the cab, it's behind the HVAC unit. The column shifter hole is about 2 o'clock, on the firewall, from the steering column, it being 12 o'clock. It does look like too much of a stretch to reach with the floor cable. I am considering drilling on the side of the trans tunnel above the gas pedal close to where the firewall begins, but I think I will wait until my cable arrives to gauge its length and see how well it flexes while not kinking up.
Be careful about drilling next to the gas pedal, I think you will find the floor is double wall in that location. Try drilling a small test hole first. If you found the correct hole in the floor why do you want to drill, can’t you feed the cable through?
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 07:31 PM
  #41  
FX4&EXCURSION's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 0
From: Ashburn, Virginia
Originally Posted by FX4andHARLEY
Be careful about drilling next to the gas pedal, I think you will find the floor is double wall in that location. Try drilling a small test hole first. If you found the correct hole in the floor why do you want to drill, can’t you feed the cable through?
Gotcha, oh the hole isn't drilled out, just the outline in the underbody insulation, where the hole "would" be drilled. Unfortunately, like yourself, I couldn't access it with a drill in the cab or below the cab.
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 08:32 PM
  #42  
ericd's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
From: New Eagle, PA USA
Dunno if this will help or not but here's a set of instructions I pulled off of my 05 DVD:



If I remember correctly, the last shot on the page that shows where the cable goes through the floor looks exactly like where my column cable exits the cab. Sort of right behind the gas pedal, at the base of the "tranny hump". I'll see if I can take a pic of the truck tomorrow.

BTW - Those looking to run juice to the power point on the new console can skip the wires in the front plug. The existing harness for the center seat plugs direct to the power point on the back of the flow-thru console, as long as when you remove the seat, you leave the short pigtail connector in the truck (the one that is clipped to the seat frame).

The shifter still needs ground, so you're only saving 1 wire, but that's one less splice that needs done!

E...
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 08:40 PM
  #43  
ericd's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
From: New Eagle, PA USA
Originally Posted by -TXF150-
I heve the connector.
Interesting. An XLT with the connector? This really makes no sense now. Flow-thru isn't an option on your truck either. Does Ford just have a big bin of mixed wire harnesses, and if they're building a truck without flow-thru, what they grab is what you get?

Really strange. The harness **** at the Ford plant strikes again...

E...

No flow-thru for you....BACK OF LINE!!
 

Last edited by ericd; Nov 16, 2005 at 08:56 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 09:49 PM
  #44  
BlacknTan's Avatar
Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
From: Northern Illinois
Is it an 04 vs 05 issue? Maybe that was one of the cost cuttingmeasures..taking the connector out of all trucks not built with the flow-thru console for my 05.
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 10:36 PM
  #45  
FX4andHARLEY's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Likes: 1
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by ericd
BTW - Those looking to run juice to the power point on the new console can skip the wires in the front plug. The existing harness for the center seat plugs direct to the power point on the back of the flow-thru console, as long as when you remove the seat, you leave the short pigtail connector in the truck (the one that is clipped to the seat frame).E...

You’re right; I totally forgot the SCREW and SCAB have a power point on the back of the 20% seat (my regular cab doesn’t have anything on the back of the center seat). Guess I’ll have to rewrite my instructions. You can run the ground for the shifter down from the gray connector on the bottom of the steering column along with the other four wires for a clean install. Then you’ll only need the light tap from the Parking Aid kill switch (or any place else you would like to get it). Good catch ERICD.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:08 AM.