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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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jpdadeo, that's the kind of reply I was hoping someone would post...glad to see not everyone on here are a$$holes and make a big deal about everything.....Getting my Xcal 2 in a few days hopefully
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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still waiting for mine. they said 2-3weeks. its gotta be close to that.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdadeo
.......The rev limiter is raised, top speed limiter is gone, shift-point rpm’s are raised at WOT, up-shifts are fast & firm, down-shifts are instant, throttle-lag is history, goes open loop instantly at WOT (no 8 to 12 sec. delay), etc, etc.

I’ve had my Xcalibrator since 12-03-04 and it’s still feels like a fresh new driving experience that puts a big grin on my face everyday.
jpdadeo hit all the main points that the XCAL will do. it pretty much "unleashes" that 5.4 Triton from the super dosile programming done by Ford.
Like i said to Troyer, worth every penny and some.
Does it put down 25ft. worth of rubber, well not for me....but well worth the $
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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I love it.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdadeo
The Xcalibrator-2 will have identical performance results (Troyer tuned of course) as the Xcalibrator; no better, no worse, and the difference being the X-2 can data log and has some diagnostic capabilities.

That being said, they are as good as everyone says and you will feel a huge seat of the pants difference. The rev limiter is raised, top speed limiter is gone, shift-point rpm’s are raised at WOT, up-shifts are fast & firm, down-shifts are instant, throttle-lag is history, goes open loop instantly at WOT (no 8 to 12 sec. delay), etc, etc.

I’ve had my Xcalibrator since 12-03-04 and it’s still feels like a fresh new driving experience that puts a big grin on my face everyday.
Can you explain "goes open loop instantly at WOT (no 8 to 12 sec. delay)"? Thanks.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jrack04
Can you explain "goes open loop instantly at WOT (no 8 to 12 sec. delay)"? Thanks.
The factory PCM is set up to delay open loop significantly, in fact some vehicles never attain open loop. Troyer’s custom tunes changes that

quote from one of Mike's posts:

"In short, "Closed Loop" fuel control operation is when the PCM is using the feedback from the oxygen sensors to constantly adjust the air fuel ratio to a 14.64:1 A/F ratio. You're stuck at "stoich" A/F, thus there isn't much spark advance that can be tolerated before the motor knocks, so the engine doesn't make maximum power - as is appropriate, as this is basically it's "cruise" mode, for lack of a better term - for just enough power to cruise and get it's best fuel mileage.

Open Loop fuel control operation is when the engine makes it's *real* power - in this mode, the PCM ignores the feedback from the oxygen sensors and no longer forces the engine to run a 14.64:1 A/F ratio - instead, it uses the signal coming in from the MAF meter or MAS to determine how much fuel and timing to put into the engine, based on hand-coded values in lookup tables that are based primarily on load, and the result is richer A/F ratios and that makes the engine able to tolerate more spark advance"
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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So if it's a richer A/F ratio with a tune from Xcal 2.....you can expect worse gas mileage? I'm assuming supstainally more power from Troyer's custom tune = worse gas mileage. Am I correct or incorrect?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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So if it's a richer A/F ratio with a tune from Xcal 2.....you can expect worse gas mileage? I'm assuming supstainally more power from Troyer's custom tune = worse gas mileage. Am I correct or incorrect?

more power equals less work equals fuel savings.

but at the same time more power equals heavier foot equals efficiency loss.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by J-150
more power equals less work equals fuel savings.

but at the same time more power equals heavier foot equals efficiency loss.
So it's a draw then huh? Can a 87 performance tune from Troyer allow you to spin the tires on regular pavement. I have a 05 5.4 Lariat Screw 4X4 with 3.73 gears and I can barely chirp the tires without a tune, exhaust or intake. I'm thinking about doing an exhaust and intake, maybe that will help, and maybe I need the reflash? Who knows.....
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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closed-loop is when you are at less than 81% throttle and the engine is up to normal operating temperature

open loop is 80% throttle and above (full throttle operation, basically)

The Xcalibrator is a performance product marketed to increase hp & torque; any fuel savings you get will only be a byproduct. Keep your foot out of the throttle and you get better mpg’s
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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So it's a draw then huh?

you should see a gain in efficiency if you drive 100% the same. But most guys end up getting the lead foot with the performance upgrade.

You its really up to you. Yeah it can be a draw but there was a couple of guys here who have driven the same and did report better MPG.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Yeah I'd drive the same...except for everynow and then flooring it....which is no different then what I do now. I just want something that doesn't have a 10 second delay when I hit the gas at a stop light to start going. It's like this...green light, gas pedal, 1, 2, 3, 4, go.....pretty nuts. So if this gets rid of the delay and helps accelerate onto the highway without having to floor it; and helps my gas mileage or doesn't hurt it...AND doesn't hurt the life of the engine.....then I'm game! Not too many requirements huh?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
So it's a draw then huh? Can a 87 performance tune from Troyer allow you to spin the tires on regular pavement. I have a 05 5.4 Lariat Screw 4X4 with 3.73 gears and I can barely chirp the tires without a tune, exhaust or intake. I'm thinking about doing an exhaust and intake, maybe that will help, and maybe I need the reflash? Who knows.....

I cannot spin the tires with my mods (91oct/Airraid/Magnaflow). It comes damn close when it shifts into second though.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tun2One
I cannot spin the tires with my mods (91oct/Airraid/Magnaflow). It comes damn close when it shifts into second though.
I got a 3:55 gear and I can blister the tires from standstill and get a minor chirp on the 1-2 up-shift. 93-octane Max-Performance tune, Troyer of course
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tun2One
I cannot spin the tires with my mods (91oct/Airraid/Magnaflow). It comes damn close when it shifts into second though.
Does it jump off the line though? Mine just feels like I'm towing a boat when I punch it from a stand still. The pedal goes to the floor and the truck slowly goes forward then picks up speed.
 
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