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2001SUPERCREW 08-06-2005 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by vigness
Copied the diagrams for the door locks the other day, will stop in and get the diagrams for the PFM system this weekend.

On getting the door panels off the '05, pretty easy, just the screws at the bottom of the door and the two behind the inside handle. The only thing you need to remember is to pop the bottom speaker mounts after taking the speakers out, they will keep the panel from lifting up.

Will you get the one for the relay I need to know what pin is ground.

I have everything in place I just need to know that info.\

I checked with 2 dealers about the PM switch, both say that the KR is the same as the rest, can you check that out aswell.

thanks Tim :wave:

vigness 08-06-2005 01:57 PM

???? Window handle... that means you have manual windows. Not sure on those, mine are elec. Usually there is a clip on the back of the handle, you can pick up the tool at the parts store, it doesn't look like much for the price, but it is WELL worth the money.

Ascii 08-06-2005 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by 2001SUPERCREW
Will you get the one for the relay I need to know what pin is ground.

I have everything in place I just need to know that info.\

I checked with 2 dealers about the PM switch, both say that the KR is the same as the rest, can you check that out aswell.

thanks Tim :wave:


Pin one from this diagram it is the pfm module ground.

2001SUPERCREW 08-06-2005 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ascii
Pin one from this diagram it is the pfm module ground.


I know that, the problem is what is ground on the relay the numbers do not match on the Ford relay.???

thanks

Ascii 08-06-2005 05:10 PM

They should thats the 2005 f150 pfm module.

Ascii 08-06-2005 05:11 PM

are you using just a regular relay or a ford 2005 pfm module??

jztbcz 08-06-2005 07:47 PM

Excellent .... :thumbsup:

2001SUPERCREW 08-06-2005 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ascii
are you using just a regular relay or a ford 2005 pfm module??

the ford PFM relay

2001SUPERCREW 08-06-2005 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Ascii
They should thats the 2005 f150 pfm module.

Well since the pic shows round circles you can't tell what is what.

thanks tim

Ascii 08-07-2005 12:07 PM

well the ground is the only thick wire it's 12 gauge and the rest are 20 besides that it's the black wire. If you have the module in hand there should be #'s inside the disconnect on the plastic too.

2001SUPERCREW 08-07-2005 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Ascii
well the ground is the only thick wire it's 12 gauge and the rest are 20 besides that it's the black wire. If you have the module in hand there should be #'s inside the disconnect on the plastic too.


I have a 2005 f-150 that did not come with the PFM so I would not have the plug, that's why I'm asking for the info I need to know what blade on the PFM relay a (Ford one) is the ground...... :confused:

Ascii 08-07-2005 01:04 PM

Look inside ontop of the blade there are numbers @ least there are on the power window modules. Or buy the harness for 30 bucks.

2001SUPERCREW 08-07-2005 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Ascii
Look inside ontop of the blade there are numbers @ least there are on the power window modules. Or buy the harness for 30 bucks.

If you read it above I allready said that the numbers do not match.

Thanks for the help I will get the info somewere eles.

vigness 08-08-2005 07:40 PM

I may have found the key to using the factory wiring!!! :thumbsup:

Went in to the dealership and copied several wiring diagrams. When I got to the power folding mirror, there was two pages that looked almost identical, so I copied both.

Notice I said ALMOST.

On the second page it says "If equiped" but doesn't say what it might be equiped with. In the middle of the diagram is a connector not on the other diagram... with a jumper! From C2108 pin 3 to C2059 pin 3 between S503 and S603.

I have to get one diagram I missed on the DTR relay box ( there's TWO relays for that bad boy besides the resister ) and will see if I can find the location of the connectors

Ascii 08-08-2005 09:40 PM

the pfm module has 2 relays in it are you sure you aren't looking at that?

Also what i see is c2108 is a ground that connects the heater the light (on the mirror) and the turn signal.

Is that c2059 or c2095 ? since i cant find a 59.


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