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Did my first oil change at 1000 miles and put back in Motorcraft oil. I always change the oil very early when the engine is new to get the factory oil out and to remove any effects the break-in had on the oil (metals bits, etc.).
Now I change every 3000 miles. On my last change I put in Valvoline synthetic 5w20. I was thinking about Mobile1 0w20, but I am not clear on what effects the different weight would have. A number of guys on here are running 0w20 Mobile1 though.
- Justin
Now I change every 3000 miles. On my last change I put in Valvoline synthetic 5w20. I was thinking about Mobile1 0w20, but I am not clear on what effects the different weight would have. A number of guys on here are running 0w20 Mobile1 though.
- Justin
Originally posted by petard
I did my first at 3000, then the second at 8000 (5k). I'll do it every 5k miles just like the manual says. After 5k the oil still looks good and it's all there (no burning).
I did my first at 3000, then the second at 8000 (5k). I'll do it every 5k miles just like the manual says. After 5k the oil still looks good and it's all there (no burning).
isn't the manual written by someone that is expecting the engine to perform consistently until about 100,000 miles?
isn't the manual written and implemented by the same people that ride in your and my vehicles while the tire is slapping and the steering wheel is vibrating and the wheels are hopping and says "well according to Ford (in the other manul you don't have a copy of) that's in spec. they all do that."?
I notice two things when I go into Ford Dealer:
#1) the service techs are always amazed at the condition of my vehicles. when I traded the Cobra they were standing around gawking even though they see several newer Cobras every day, even the sales guy said he didn't get it. i routinely park the car in service then walk around through sales and come out the parts door to walk up on them and chat with them about the car. I'll say wow nice car, and they'll go yeah and I wait to see if they will point out anything. One time I had a guy say something like "yeah but the radiator sucks, there's a TSB on it". I said, "wow really? well you better write it up" and handed him the keys. Much to his surprise.
#2) the Service Manager never agrees with me on the expected performance of the vehicle, nor the maintenance/service requirements yet their own personal cars run terribly by comparison, even though they have a loaner taurus with only a few thousand miles. In addition they do not have the engine life and performance ratio that mine do. If the engine still runs but is not putting out the proper horsepower efficiently at 100k miles, is that ok? not to me. How many people dyno their car with 90,000 miles and it's output is the same as it was with 10,000? not many I'll bet
IMHO an engine cannot be too clean, cannot have too new filters or fluids. It's strictly a matter of money. I'd rather spend mine on disposables. In spite of all efforts, I work on an assumption that any contaminants introduced into the engine will stay, and build-up in the engine.
Anytime a person disagrees or starts an argument with me about maintaining a vehicle, I simply ask politely to see their car. It's usually quite embarrassing for them.
I've come to the opinion that service techs while probably aptly trained to fix vehicles really either have no idea how to maintain them unless they aquire that knowledge from a source other than Ford or are so scared to say anything other than what is in their manual they won't.
I've had many service techs that after watching a conversation between me and the service manager where they had to agree with him, looked at me and said "I know you are right, but, I could lose my job if I didn't agree with him".
I don't know what it takes to rise through the ranks and become a Ford Parts and/or Service Manager, but, I'm not impressed with them or their manuals.
sorry for the tangent
Last edited by scottkennedy; Jun 2, 2004 at 11:03 AM.
Originally posted by jmvdigital
Did my first oil change at 1000 miles and put back in Motorcraft oil. I always change the oil very early when the engine is new to get the factory oil out and to remove any effects the break-in had on the oil (metals bits, etc.).
Now I change every 3000 miles. On my last change I put in Valvoline synthetic 5w20. I was thinking about Mobile1 0w20, but I am not clear on what effects the different weight would have. A number of guys on here are running 0w20 Mobile1 though.
- Justin
Did my first oil change at 1000 miles and put back in Motorcraft oil. I always change the oil very early when the engine is new to get the factory oil out and to remove any effects the break-in had on the oil (metals bits, etc.).
Now I change every 3000 miles. On my last change I put in Valvoline synthetic 5w20. I was thinking about Mobile1 0w20, but I am not clear on what effects the different weight would have. A number of guys on here are running 0w20 Mobile1 though.
- Justin
I'm also using Valvoline but I'm using the Durablend not the full synthetic at this time.
I did run 0w full in my Cobra but switched back to 5w. I used a blend for the first few changes then switched to 5w full, then 0w full, but, didn't like it and went back to 5w and used that the rest of it's life. That was a much more high rev-ing engine and had some cooling problems even with waterwetter. I've always heard (whether true or not) it was better to get a few batches of oil through before switching.
I am currently running full 5w it in our Volvo that runs very hot with a 4cyl and turbo charger with about 9000 miles. I'm probably staying with 5w there.
I'm just not sure about full vs blend on the F150. I think I might stick with blend 5w, but, even I go full it won't be for quite a few miles yet.
How many total miles do you have?
Well to me 5000 miles between oil changes is fine and normal. By adhering to what the manual says and staying on a regular maintenance schedule, my warranty shouldn't get "voided" and my truck should run fine for years. Theoretically.



