Having owned both vehicles (2001 Tundra 4x4 and a 2004 XLT Scab), trust me there is no comparison. Toyota quality is not what it used to be. The Tundra (and my wife's Camry) needed new front rotors at delivery. Also, the electronic 4 wheel drive engagement never worked properly. The Tundra has pitiful low-end torque, although I could break the rear end loose in the rain in 2nd gear when the engine finally came onto the cams at 3500 rpm. I liked the Tundra's engine, but not for a truck. Around town in the Scab, I can easily keep pace with traffic with the tranny shifting before 2000 rpm. This is my 6th truck and it is by far the best.

 

Again, if we are talking comparable vehicles. I have a Reg. Cab 4x2 5.4 liter with 3.73 LS. My supervisor(military) has a brand new Titan 4x2 extended cab(only way you can get it) with the 5.6 liter. Trust me, Nissan aint the fastest. Our low end torque beats it every time. I raced him three times and beat him all three from a rolling start and from a dead start.

Everyone says, the Nissan is the fastest and all that. They have a whopping 5 more HP than our engine and 10lbs of torque. I dont get it.

 

I traded in my 04 tundra double cab for a screw last week. I liked the tundra, but it was too small, had ****ty acceleration, and couldn't do **** off road. the interior sucked...but it did have more storage than the f150, and the rear window was the ****. All and all, i trust toyota, I never questioned if the truck would run or not. But if you want a full size truck.....toyota is not the way to go. The titan is just but ****ing ugly, but they accelerate like a bat out of hell. The interior was nice.....but it was just too ugly for me.....

 

Titan weighs less and tests of equivalent vehicles have the titan beating the F150 0-60 by 1.5 seconds. Sounds like your buddies Titan is having problems. Actually, the '04 Ford 5.6 was dead last in acceleration vs. Hemi, tundra, Titan, and Silverado among SCREWS with largest motor.
It was
Titan: 7.6 0-60
Hemi: 8.0 0-60 and 16.2 in the quarter
Silverado: 8.8 0-60
Tundra: "Nip and tuck with the Chevy, but outruns the heavy Ford"
Ford: 9.3 0-60, 17.1 quarter (both were slowest of the test)

Dont' get me wrong. Couple of tweeks and they will wake up. F150 beats the Nissan in just about every other way to me. But sheer speed is the only thing that made me think twice about the Titan.

 

Okay, I said "comparable" vehicles. I own a 2004 REGULAR CAB SHORT BED 4x2 5.4 liter with a 3.73 LS. My curb weight is 4925lbs. I ran a 10.0 sec at nearly 71MPH, 1/8 mile on my first and only run at the track. I could have easily pulled into 9's at over 70mph.

He has a 2004 Extended Cab 4x2 Titan, 5.6 liter with 3.55's I would assume. His curb weight is 4966lbs( we weighed our trucks)...heavier than mine by a very little bit. His motor runs just fine man. No problems. I think if you look further into the vehicles tested you would see they were loaded 4x4's with Supercrew cabs and such.

So, if I ran a 10 sec at 71mph I doubt my 0 to 60 is 9.3 seconds. I have it videotaped at just under 7 seconds with a rolling start. I am bone stock too. It depends on the vehicle.

Also, no I dont beat him by a huge length either but I do beat him.

 

Right. A Lightning.

 

...with 1000 lb of balast in the bed.......I do not believe any magazine "findings". Go test drive, feel for the machine by yourself and make your own conclusion. That's my philosophy. I test drove a Nissan Titan, very sluggish and very noisy... I'd never buy it, but that's me. I am not biased , or Brand loyal at all.
AS far as magazine "facts" are concerned, personally I don't take them seriously...this forum is much better than any magazine..

Joe

 

I just read that review. I noticed they tested a 5.4L with 3.55s. I'm thinking even the 3.73s I have might not be enough. 3.55s would be sluggish.

 

There is a good bit of difference between the 3.55's and the 3.73's. Nothing that will snap your head though.

Anyway, my track numbers are good for a stock pickup. I have driven my buddies Nissan and it has power. But, it IS NOT this speed demon as everyone makes it out to be. The pull you feel in a vehicle can be very decieving. It sounds like it is going ten times faster than my truck, but I still pull on him.

Also, isnt the Titan's engine tuned and requires 93 octane? I think I read that somewhere. I know the F-150 is de-tuned and uses 87 octane. I dont know for sure on the Titan. Anybody?

 

The Titan will run on 87 but is tuned to get additional power with higher octanes. The F150 gets no additional performance from higher octane.

 

is the 305 HP number based on 87 or higher?

 

Yeah, I would assume so as is the 5.4 liter 300 hp on 87. If it isnt, then the 5.4 liter is by far more powerful.

 

I don't know if they test with super or not. I would think they do. It has a 9.8:1 compression ratio so it doesn't need it. If the computer is set-up to use it, it could make a difference.
Bottom line, motors in both are about the same power wise. The problem the Ford has is its a big boy so the power to weight ratio is much better in the Nissan. But you get a more solid truck with the added weight.
Here's the Nissan numbers:
C/D TEST RESULTS

ACCELERATION (Seconds)
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.6
50 mph: 5.2
60 mph: 6.9
70 mph: 9.2
80 mph: 11.9
90 mph: 15.1
100 mph: 19.6
110 mph: 28.3
Street start, 5–60 mph 7.1
Top-gear acceleration, 30–50 mph: 3.5
50–70 mph: 4.7
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.4 sec @ 91 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 114 mph

Here's the Ford's writeup:
Here’s the rub: All this content shows on the scales—5960 pounds, 360 more than the brawny Ram and 800 more than the trim and agile Tundra. Even though our test truck packed the top engine, rated at 300 horsepower, it scored weak marks in every performance test. Zero to 60 measured 9.3 seconds, the quarter-mile was 17.0 seconds at 82 mph—both at the back of the pack.

For power users, the F-150 will be a disappointment. It tied with the Ram for worst fuel economy—at 11 mpg—on our test trip.

Bottomline, I would still rather have the Ford. The motor has more potential and the rest of the platform is desirable. Pop a supercharger, intake, exhaust, chip, port and polish, and go titan and maybe even 350Z hunting.

 

Holy bejesus !! 5,960lbs !!!! As I expected, it HAD to be a 4x4 with that weight. Mine weighed in at 4925lbs approx. on a truck scale here at work. Thats about 1,000 lbs lighter. Yeah, the new F-150's are heavy. I am glad I got the lightest version you could get. I wanted it for racing. Yeah, I know it's a truck but I HATE cars. I weigh about 250lbs(lots of weight-liftng) and I cant fit into them. Plus, trucks can look alot cooler.

 

Because trucks ARE a lot cooler than cars.