Anybody have any cracks appear in their new leather seats?

1500 miles on it and all ready a crack in the seat. I'm going to call the dealer today and see what they can do about it.

 

Check out the thread bigsherm77 started last week:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hreadid=146280

 

Thanks, I was looking for that thead. I remembered seeing it, but could not find it. Mine is a little different. It's one crack up on the bolster on the back.

 

Wow... sounds like there are some serious issues with quality on the seating surfaces... A company called LEER (maybe LEAR) makes the entire interior, including overhead systems... Sounds like someone needs to drop the hammer on the QC guys to keep this from happening in future builds.

RP

 

Correct me if I am wrong but it is my understanding that the bolster on the “leather” seats of the 04 is vinyl, not leather. The area of the seat where Bigsherm77’s is deteriorating is vinyl. Not that this changes the situation but it may be there is some sort of vinyl failure and not a problem with the leather, at least at this point.

Screwdrive

 

List of F-150 suppliers (2004):
PDF File
http://www.autonews.com/files/f150cutaway.pdf

Driver, passenger airbag: TRW Automotive

Wiring harness: Siemens-Yazaki System Technologies

Fuel injectors: Robert Bosch Corp.

Idle air by-pass valve: Denso International America Inc.

Hood liner: CTA Acoustics Inc.

Connecting rod bushings: Federal-Mogul Corp.

Hood: Alcoa Automotive

Wheels: Superior Industries International Inc.

Engine timing chain, viscous fan drive, four-wheel-drive transfer case: BorgWarner Inc.

Integrated air/fuel module: Visteon Corp.

Door panels: Lear Corp.

Floor & Acoustic systems: Lear Corp. Electronic Vapor Management valve: Siemens VDO Automotive

Fornt light bulbs: Osram Sylvania

Cooler and reservoir: Dana Corp.

Hood latch, release: Dura Automotive Systems

Pistons: Federal-Mogul Corp.

Power steering lines: Dana Corp.

Front stabilizer links: TRW Automotive

Tailgate lift assist: Techform Products Ltd.

Starter, alternator: Visteon Corp.

Audiophile sound system: Visteon Corp.

Seat systems, Crew Cab, Super Duty: Lear Corp.

Instrument panels, panel components, electronics: Lear Corp. Inner/outer steering joints: ZF Group NAO

Front lower control arm: TRW Automotive

Seats: Johnson Controls Inc.

Electronic vaccum regulator: Siemens VDO Automotive

Seat belts: TRW Automotive

Window regulators: ArvinMeritor Inc.

Interior auto dimming mirror: Gentex Corp.

Brake fluids: Dow Automotive

Steering rack and pinion gear: Visteon Corp.

Pressure return pump: Visteon Corp.

Front stabilizer bars and front coil springs: Visteon Corp.

Body security module: Siemens VDO Automotive

Overhead system: Johnson Controls Inc.

CD/radio: Delphi Corp. (6-disc)

Power sliding glass rear window: Dura Automotive Systems

Console Shift System: Dura Automotive Systems

Occupant positioning system: Delphi Corp.

Brake components/ABS: Robert Bosch Corp.

Radiator: ..Visteon Corp...

Front and rear axle driveshafts: Visteon Corp.

Instrument panel, console cluster: Visteon Corp.

Front lighting: Visteon Corp.

Windshield: Visteon Corp.

Interior trim, electronics, Crew Cab, Super Duty: Lear Corp. Steering wheel: TRW Automotive

Park assist: Valeo Inc.

Door latches: Intier Automotive

Steering column: Delphi Corp.

Manual seat adjusters: Intier Automotive

Heat shield: Alcoa Automotive

Frame: Dana Corp.

Camshaft bushings: Federal-Mogul Corp.

Front suspension bushing: ZF Group NAO

Passive anti-theft system: Visteon Corp.

Fuel tank, fuel pump: Visteon Corp.

Floor & Acoustic Systems, Crew Cab, Super Duty: Lear Corp.

 

Thanks for posting that list, lariatf150. Very interesting.

Cheers.

 

The area that's cracked on Bigsherm77's seat is leather. The "side" area just below the cracks is "Premium Vinyl."

 

Really? I thought that area of the seat was vinyl (where mine is cracked) I just called it leather because I can't tell a difference anyway.

 

Bigdog:

I do not think you are correct but if you have some definitive info..... We have been over this on the board and I think it was discussed / determined that only the patches under you butt & back are real leather - the sides are vinyl. I recall a post mentioning that the reason for this (besides cutting cuts) was to help avoid exactly what Bigsherm77 is experiencing.

I know on my seat there is a definite difference between the grain on the sides (the area failing on Bigsherm77’s) and the patch in the middle of the seat.

But either way, one would hope for better longevity than 11K miles.

Screwdrive

 

You can feel the diffenence when you run your hand over the two. The vinyl will feel more grippy. The headrest is vinyl whereas the part right under the headrest is leather. The picture bigsherm had was leather where the cracks were.

 

the bolster areas and the center section of the front seats are leather, but in a supercrew rear seat, its just the center piece thats leather. In a super cab, the entire rear seat is vinyl.

 

I think there has been a lot of misconception about what is leather vs. vinyl. It seemed to have started in this thread:
"cheap seats", in which kidtriton illustratively pointed out that the "leather trimmed" back seats in the Lariat Supercrews are not all leather, but just the rectangular surfaces he outlined (while all Supercabs and FX4 Supercrews rears seat surfaces are all vinyl).
Many people seem to recall that thread and believe that the same limited leather trim area also applied to the front seats.

Here is a later thread where the debate arose once again: Do you have "Tan" leather ? Then read this ! . Worth noting from this thread is the following post by Scott99:
Hopefully, that will help clarify the "leather content" issue.
Supercab rear seat: all vinyl
FX4 SuperCrew rear seat: all vinyl
Lariat Supercrew rear seat: leather "patches", rest is vinyl
Front seats: seating area and front of seat back= leather; headrest and back of seat back=vinyl

Sorry for the long post.

 

The engineer did not mention that the sides of the front seats just above the lumbar **** which also extends around the front of the seat is not leather, at least not on the FX4 sport captain's chairs.

 

Bigsherm's seats look almost as bad as my leather Lariat seats do NOW, except I've had mine since late '97 and been running my butt over the side bolster the whole time.

Treating and cleaning the seats all the time helps, but it seems nothing short of akwardly getting in/out of the seat will stop it from happening completely. You would look like a circus clown if you did that all the time.

If I was Bigsherm, I'd be pissed, it's WAAAAY too early for that to be happening. And he's an early adopter, one of those guys who posts all the time and has been very helpful on this forum; Ford should take care of his problem.