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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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sreamin reel -

I don't know jack about Dodge, actually. I just glanced at their deminsions for the bed and crew cab. Guess I better look at MPG and cab size...

Guess I should know better than to use "that word" here...

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by scollins
Ladies and Gentlemen, it's IzInBloOm - the one who has no clue what he's talkin about!!!

Thanks, IzInBloOm, for, um, nothing.



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Dude you have got to calm down - quit insulting people you know nothing about. IzInBloOm does a hell of alot for this forum by providing people with status checks on ordered cars, etc. Its guys like him that make this forum interesting for the rest of us.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Dude you have got to calm down - quit insulting people you know nothing about. IzInBloOm does a hell of alot for this forum by providing people with status checks on ordered cars, etc. Its guys like him that make this forum interesting for the rest of us.

DITTO!

5:00 here for you IzInBloOm !!!

 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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If I can't even throw an 8ft 2x4 in the bed of my truck without it sticking up and sliding around....
I have a Lariat SCREW witha 5.5' bed. When you drop the tailgate a 8' sheet of plywood will fit between the wheel wells and from the front of the box to the end of the tailgate with nothing hanging over.

Just remember though...While Line-X is pretty grippy stuff, it does NOTHING to keep any of the plywood other than the bottom sheet in the truck. If you goose the throttle a little too much you might just leave the rest behind...

This from one who knows
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by scollins


Sorry, but to me, a CREW CAB used to mean a truck that could carry a "work crew" to and fro the jobsite, with the longer bed filled with tools.



Scott
The Crew Cabs your refering to were never 1/2 ton trucks. They were 3/4 or 1 ton trucks, just like Ford and Chevy still make. If thats what you want GO BUY IT.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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Geeezzzz, would you guys please try not to run every new member off with the hostile posts? Y'all behave like a damn pack of cyber wolves sometimes...

As I have posted at great length on the topic before, and my sentiment about wanting a four door F-150 with a 6.5' bed has not changed, I will just directed scollins to those posts, rather than repeat everything I said earlier. A quick search of threads on the topic points here:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/se...der=descending
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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You are so right about the "pack of wolves" mentality in this forum.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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I think the answer to your question is they'd have to increase the wheelbase to get the 6.5 foot bed As well as the bigger rear passenger section.

Dodge has to make their back seats smaller to get the larger bed.

Chevy's actually coming out with a 5.5 foot bed, larger supercrew truck for 05. Sounds like Fords obviously on to something.

Personally, I like it and obviously the market trend is for it as well. People have more priority over the passenger room than cargo. Plus you can haul pretty much anything with the tailgate down and the bed extender. I don't think I could own a supercrew living in the city as I do with a much longer wheelbase than what I have now.

Not to mention you can get it in the 250 series if you really want it. If you think about it it makes since. A person who REALLY wants a longer bed is obviously going to be hauling more. If you're going to be hauling a lot maybe the 250 series is a better fit anyway. Or just get a Crew cab and sacrifice some passenger room for you extra foot of bed space. It's not like Ford doesn't give you a thousand options...
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by BHibbs
I think the answer to your question is they'd have to increase the wheelbase to get the 6.5 foot bed As well as the bigger rear passenger section.
Yes, naturally there would be an increase in the wheelbase, but the end result would still be shorter than the currently produced SuperCab with the 8' bed. The math breaks down like this:

SuperCab with an 8' bed has a 163" wheelbase and an overall length of 248".

SuperCrew with a 6.5' bed would have a 150.7" wheelbase and an overall length of 236".

Chevy's actually coming out with a 5.5 foot bed, larger supercrew truck for 05. Sounds like Fords obviously on to something. Personally, I like it and obviously the market trend is for it as well. People have more priority over the passenger room than cargo.


Monkey see, monkey do marketing IMO. Both companies are exploiting the blossoming market of first time truck buyers crossing over from four door passenger cars.

Interesting quote from a Ford dealer and member XCR440SP:

"Kind of funny, I get numerous requests for a 6.5' SuperCrew that doesn't get built, and I never once had a request for a Supercab 5.5' and thats now availble. Sometimes I wonder who they talk to about what to build."


Plus you can haul pretty much anything with the tailgate down and the bed extender.


And what about those that don't want to haul things with the tailgate down? Several here have remarked that the new bigger tailgate has a tendency bounce, when left in the down position. How about those that use a locking bed cover to secure a load?

Here are a few things you can't do with a 5.5' bed:
  • Can't mount a full size tool box and have room left "to haul pretty much anything".
  • Can't order a larger fuel tank, like you can on trucks with longer beds.
  • Can't use your truck to haul a fifth wheel trailer.
  • Can't buy a real slide-in camper for your truck.
  • Can't put most of the bigger quads in and shut the tailgate.
  • Can't put an 8' piece of lumber in diagonally with the tailgate closed.

Not to mention you can get it in the 250 series if you really want it. If you think about it it makes since. A person who REALLY wants a longer bed is obviously going to be hauling more. If you're going to be hauling a lot maybe the 250 series is a better fit anyway.Or just get a Crew cab and sacrifice some passenger room for you extra foot of bed space. It's not like Ford doesn't give you a thousand options...
Well, if Ford had made the 6.5' bed on a SuperCrew one of those "thousand options", we would not continue to have this very same discussion -- over and over again.

The 250 may be a better fit for some; but what about those that simply want the utility of the 6.5' bed and four doors -- but do not want to trade away all the very real advances (more refined & quieter interior, smoother suspension, more powerful 5.4L 3V motor, etc.) that are exclusive to the F-150? Seems like there would be a ready market for a 1/2 ton four door truck with a real bed. Are you listening Ford?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 06:10 AM
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Depends on who you talk to, Some people will say 7 inches makes a "huge" difference. I just couldn't resist that guys, it was asking for it...
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by carpenter
Depends on who you talk to, Some people will say 7 inches makes a "huge" difference. I just couldn't resist that guys, it was asking for it...
LOL carpenter!! Yeah, someone had to take that bait!!

I just figured the post subject line would have drawn the first zinger, as it sounded like the answer to the question of why the eight foot tall man was still a virgin...

No Screw and 6.5 foot bed...
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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Wow! Thanks FoMoCoFoMe. Awesome post!!! You spelled it out perfectly. I do want a 150 and not larger for the reasons you said. The towing I do is light but very frequent, so no need for heavy power/larger truck. Thanks!

For the haters, I'm sorry if I ruffled any feathers. I admit that I may have seemed to be "griping" in my original post, but then I was attacked thereafter, so I responded back. But, it was all in fun!!! or at least I thought... Again, just messin...

Thanks all!
Scott
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by DejaBlue
I have a Lariat SCREW witha 5.5' bed. When you drop the tailgate a 8' sheet of plywood will fit...from the front of the box to the end of the tailgate with nothing hanging over...
DejaBlue, I would stay away from whoever is selling you 8' sheets of plywood because they are ripping you off man.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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I don't think you understand Fomo... The Supercrew as it is now is idealy set up with its Yet Shorter wheelbase to be a nice driving, urban truck. Extending the wheelbase would make it less maneuverable anyway or what you compare it to. This is why it's the most popular selling F150 right now. NOT because it has a longer wheelbase and a 6.5 foot bed. And This is why others are copying it.

If you think the Dodge set up is better I'd look at the Crew cab. It pretty much has the same rear seat as a Supercrew or Dodge Quad cab, just not the leg room of the Supercrew and just slightly less legroom than the Dodge. Or buy the dodge, I don't really care.

Your arguements are sound, and maybe sometime they will make one with a 6.5 foot bed. But don't think the current set up is some kind of a mistake or flaw. It's set up this way for a very good reason.

Most of your points I'd get an F250. I have a feeling they'll update it next year and give it some of the new F150 traits.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by FoMoCoFoMe
The 250 may be a better fit for some; but what about those that simply want the utility of the 6.5' bed and four doors -- but do not want to trade away all the very real advances (more refined & quieter interior, smoother suspension, more powerful 5.4L 3V motor, etc.) that are exclusive to the F-150? Seems like there would be a ready market for a 1/2 ton four door truck with a real bed. Are you listening Ford?
Post on, brotha!

I tried to address those concerns of mine regaurding Ford's desision not to have a 6.5" SuperCrew F-150 to the guys here from my own recent topic, but all I get are allmost people not responding and/or trying to question me sayin' "why would you want that when you can get one in an F-250" or "Go buy an F-250"...heh..whatever, guys!


To me, a shortbedder is NOT a shortbedder if it aint at least 6.5"!
 

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