Modular 5.0 Swap
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Here you go, only $8900 but you get the whole car.
http://erepairables.com/salvage-clas...ustang-2856842
For $1000 more, you can get this truck, also with a 5.0
http://erepairables.com/salvage-clas...-f-150-2803501
http://erepairables.com/salvage-clas...ustang-2856842
For $1000 more, you can get this truck, also with a 5.0
http://erepairables.com/salvage-clas...-f-150-2803501
good to see those are reasonably priced. I bet you could part out the good body parts and interior and make back a couple grand
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Avoiding is a huge term here.
There are so many differences you better be prepaired for a long bout of problem solveing.
1. The program from your version has advanced one version to a system called "CAN" and is not compatable with your version.
2. The wire harness is all different.
3. The trans control out of the new PCM is totally different.
4. The PATS system the new PCM uses will have to be addressed in some way.
5. All the small problems that will come up.
The factory takes years to work out a model so your not going to 'marry' parts in a few months and have it be even near perfect and trouble free.
After it might get done, your now the expert. There is no one to go to for help on a problem you can't solve.
Good luck.
There are so many differences you better be prepaired for a long bout of problem solveing.
1. The program from your version has advanced one version to a system called "CAN" and is not compatable with your version.
2. The wire harness is all different.
3. The trans control out of the new PCM is totally different.
4. The PATS system the new PCM uses will have to be addressed in some way.
5. All the small problems that will come up.
The factory takes years to work out a model so your not going to 'marry' parts in a few months and have it be even near perfect and trouble free.
After it might get done, your now the expert. There is no one to go to for help on a problem you can't solve.
Good luck.
I wouldn't. You end up with heavier engine, heavier trans, heavier axles....still a 1/2-ton frame. Doesn't sound like a winner in terms of towing ability to me.
Last edited by AlfredB18; Jan 19, 2013 at 05:04 AM.
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Al,
respectfully, your not paying close enough attention to what I gave you for info and just brushing it all off.
The motor is larger in displacement,
The motor has different camshaft control hardware,
The motor has different fueling requirements,
The motor needs different ignition timing response curves to throttle and load applications.
The motor has electronic throttle control.
And there are many more differences.
.
Your original PCM cannot even begin to run a 5L motor with any amount of 'tweaking'.
Reason I try to get your attention is you spring for the motor and get into the project and get hung up and abandon it due to not researching enough before hand so you at least have half a chance of some sucess.
5$ for the part and 95$ for the advice.
Sound like a Lawyer?
Good luck whatever you decide.
respectfully, your not paying close enough attention to what I gave you for info and just brushing it all off.
The motor is larger in displacement,
The motor has different camshaft control hardware,
The motor has different fueling requirements,
The motor needs different ignition timing response curves to throttle and load applications.
The motor has electronic throttle control.
And there are many more differences.
.
Your original PCM cannot even begin to run a 5L motor with any amount of 'tweaking'.
Reason I try to get your attention is you spring for the motor and get into the project and get hung up and abandon it due to not researching enough before hand so you at least have half a chance of some sucess.
5$ for the part and 95$ for the advice.
Sound like a Lawyer?
Good luck whatever you decide.
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All fenders bolt on from 1st gen the 4gen you just need to mod the radiator support
because the grill and head lights bolt to it.
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because the grill and head lights bolt to it.
2014 LINCOLN Navigator Converted from a 1997 FORD Expedition front end swap - YouTube
2014 LINCOLN Navigator Converted from a 1997 FORD Expedition Rear-end Swap (Part 1) - YouTube
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aint been done yet, so be the first. Do it and be the 5.0 Coyote swap guy on all the threads like JMC is the 4.6-5.4 swap guy that everyone bugs the hell out of with 4 billion questions a day about information that's already been covered. Sounds fun.
automotive design guys aren't geniuses. They can do it, we can do it.
You know it's going to be expensive but everything worth having is. Realizing how much frustration and trial/error is inherent in this project is more than half the battle.
Guys on here will help you as they can. Pretty nice group of folks compared to the *******s over at pirate4x4 (I'm one there too).
if it was easy, women and children would do it.
P.S. I want a coyote in my 2001 f150 4.6 m5OD, so my encouragement to you has somewhat of an ulterior motive (***Disclaimer***). I have not the money for the ZF5 nor the Coyote motor/harness. That and my 1997 Tahoe LQ9 swap is taking too much money and time. In the end I'll see which motor was more difficult to swap in, the Chevy lq9 or the Coyote.
Or I'll say FIA and put another LQ9 and an NV4500 into my FORD PICKUP TRUCK. On 2nd thought, probably won't tell too many people about it.
Anyway, good luck!
DN
automotive design guys aren't geniuses. They can do it, we can do it.
You know it's going to be expensive but everything worth having is. Realizing how much frustration and trial/error is inherent in this project is more than half the battle.
Guys on here will help you as they can. Pretty nice group of folks compared to the *******s over at pirate4x4 (I'm one there too).
if it was easy, women and children would do it.
P.S. I want a coyote in my 2001 f150 4.6 m5OD, so my encouragement to you has somewhat of an ulterior motive (***Disclaimer***). I have not the money for the ZF5 nor the Coyote motor/harness. That and my 1997 Tahoe LQ9 swap is taking too much money and time. In the end I'll see which motor was more difficult to swap in, the Chevy lq9 or the Coyote.
Or I'll say FIA and put another LQ9 and an NV4500 into my FORD PICKUP TRUCK. On 2nd thought, probably won't tell too many people about it.
Anyway, good luck!
DN
aint been done yet, so be the first. Do it and be the 5.0 Coyote swap guy on all the threads like JMC is the 4.6-5.4 swap guy that everyone bugs the hell out of with 4 billion questions a day about information that's already been covered. Sounds fun.
automotive design guys aren't geniuses. They can do it, we can do it.
You know it's going to be expensive but everything worth having is. Realizing how much frustration and trial/error is inherent in this project is more than half the battle.
Guys on here will help you as they can. Pretty nice group of folks compared to the *******s over at pirate4x4 (I'm one there too).
if it was easy, women and children would do it.
P.S. I want a coyote in my 2001 f150 4.6 m5OD, so my encouragement to you has somewhat of an ulterior motive (***Disclaimer***). I have not the money for the ZF5 nor the Coyote motor/harness. That and my 1997 Tahoe LQ9 swap is taking too much money and time. In the end I'll see which motor was more difficult to swap in, the Chevy lq9 or the Coyote.
Or I'll say FIA and put another LQ9 and an NV4500 into my FORD PICKUP TRUCK. On 2nd thought, probably won't tell too many people about it.
Anyway, good luck!
DN
automotive design guys aren't geniuses. They can do it, we can do it.
You know it's going to be expensive but everything worth having is. Realizing how much frustration and trial/error is inherent in this project is more than half the battle.
Guys on here will help you as they can. Pretty nice group of folks compared to the *******s over at pirate4x4 (I'm one there too).
if it was easy, women and children would do it.
P.S. I want a coyote in my 2001 f150 4.6 m5OD, so my encouragement to you has somewhat of an ulterior motive (***Disclaimer***). I have not the money for the ZF5 nor the Coyote motor/harness. That and my 1997 Tahoe LQ9 swap is taking too much money and time. In the end I'll see which motor was more difficult to swap in, the Chevy lq9 or the Coyote.
Or I'll say FIA and put another LQ9 and an NV4500 into my FORD PICKUP TRUCK. On 2nd thought, probably won't tell too many people about it.
Anyway, good luck!
DN
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True, the M50D isnt known for its strength, its a Mazda/Ranger transmission 
But if you're dead set on a manual transmission you can actually get an adapter plate for the Coyote to run a T56 behind it.
But if you're dead set on a manual transmission you can actually get an adapter plate for the Coyote to run a T56 behind it.
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Im not planning on running an M5OD behind a 400+ hp engine. JMC does it (5.4 SC last time I checked) but he can swap a tranny faster than me. I'm planning a ZF5 behind a Coyote. Or a Tranzilla (t6060 i think...maybe an upgraded 4x4 t56. Hadn't checked with Rockland in a bit).
Ill always have a manual tranny in my trucks. Bit off more than I could chew in making my 2 door tahoe a stick. Will definately keep my F150 a stick.
God help me if I buy a new Yukon or Tahoe...
Ill always have a manual tranny in my trucks. Bit off more than I could chew in making my 2 door tahoe a stick. Will definately keep my F150 a stick.
God help me if I buy a new Yukon or Tahoe...
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