01 f150 4.6 flat spot at 2000 rpm
01 f150 4.6 flat spot at 2000 rpm
Hi all, Ok so I have a 01 f150 with 4.6 for about a week now when accelerating lightly when it gets to about 2000 rpm its kinda flat it will like hang there for a second, not really like its missing, but its like a flat spot when I punch it its not as bad still feels like its lacking power but it revs right up. The only things I have done recently was change the diff fluid (lucas 75 140) I cleaned and re oiled my air filter and put new plugs about three months ago I did also clean my maf sensor a couple weeks ago with maf cleaner. Thank you for your replies.
oh and I am getting no codes with my scanner+ my fuel pump seams a little bit louder than usual
oh and I am getting no codes with my scanner+ my fuel pump seams a little bit louder than usual
Begin by checking fuel pressure.
Next look for a flat spot in resistance or intermittant/open on the TPS somewhere in the lower end of it's travel.
Make this measurement with an Ohm meter from the black lead to the center output lead.
Or measure the voltage accross the same leads with the key on, engine off, while opening the throttle.
The voltage will go from about 1 volt to about 4.5 to 5 volts. It must be smooth with no intermittant.
Good luck.
Next look for a flat spot in resistance or intermittant/open on the TPS somewhere in the lower end of it's travel.
Make this measurement with an Ohm meter from the black lead to the center output lead.
Or measure the voltage accross the same leads with the key on, engine off, while opening the throttle.
The voltage will go from about 1 volt to about 4.5 to 5 volts. It must be smooth with no intermittant.
Good luck.
Last edited by Bluegrass; Mar 22, 2012 at 08:58 PM.
Begin by checking fuel pressure.
Next look for a flat spot in resistance or intermittant/open on the TPS somewhere in the lower end of it's travel.
Make this measurement with an Ohm meter from the black lead to the center output lead.
Or measure the voltage accross the same leads with the key on, engine off, while opening the throttle.
The voltage will go from about 1 volt to about 4.5 to 5 volts. It must be smooth with no intermittant.
Good luck.
Next look for a flat spot in resistance or intermittant/open on the TPS somewhere in the lower end of it's travel.
Make this measurement with an Ohm meter from the black lead to the center output lead.
Or measure the voltage accross the same leads with the key on, engine off, while opening the throttle.
The voltage will go from about 1 volt to about 4.5 to 5 volts. It must be smooth with no intermittant.
Good luck.
Ok I checked the tps I think I did it right, with the black lead on the center wire and the red lead on the top wire I am getting this reading At idle its reading 4.00 and wide open throttle it goes down to .33 v Maybe I did it wrong
The voltage check was backwards. You measured the wide open value down to low but should still have picked up any roughness.
Ideally the fuel pressure should be a bit higher in the 35 range at idle but should not cause a flat spot.
Seeing the pressure change with throttle opening changes indicates the regulator is able to control the pressure by the change in engine vacuum through the control hose.
At this point I have nothing to offer for a flat spot condition except maybe the EGR is opening when it should not, due to a sticky vacuum control solenoid regulator leaking vacuum to the EGR lifting it off it's seat.
Remove the vac reg and clean it with throttle body cleaner and clean the filter under the round cap.
It's located right behind the power steering fluid bottle.
Ideally the fuel pressure should be a bit higher in the 35 range at idle but should not cause a flat spot.
Seeing the pressure change with throttle opening changes indicates the regulator is able to control the pressure by the change in engine vacuum through the control hose.
At this point I have nothing to offer for a flat spot condition except maybe the EGR is opening when it should not, due to a sticky vacuum control solenoid regulator leaking vacuum to the EGR lifting it off it's seat.
Remove the vac reg and clean it with throttle body cleaner and clean the filter under the round cap.
It's located right behind the power steering fluid bottle.
The voltage check was backwards. You measured the wide open value down to low but should still have picked up any roughness.
Ideally the fuel pressure should be a bit higher in the 35 range at idle but should not cause a flat spot.
Seeing the pressure change with throttle opening changes indicates the regulator is able to control the pressure by the change in engine vacuum through the control hose.
At this point I have nothing to offer for a flat spot condition except maybe the EGR is opening when it should not, due to a sticky vacuum control solenoid regulator leaking vacuum to the EGR lifting it off it's seat.
Remove the vac reg and clean it with throttle body cleaner and clean the filter under the round cap.
It's located right behind the power steering fluid bottle.
Ideally the fuel pressure should be a bit higher in the 35 range at idle but should not cause a flat spot.
Seeing the pressure change with throttle opening changes indicates the regulator is able to control the pressure by the change in engine vacuum through the control hose.
At this point I have nothing to offer for a flat spot condition except maybe the EGR is opening when it should not, due to a sticky vacuum control solenoid regulator leaking vacuum to the EGR lifting it off it's seat.
Remove the vac reg and clean it with throttle body cleaner and clean the filter under the round cap.
It's located right behind the power steering fluid bottle.
I also have a decent actron scanner that gives live data and graphs.......just not sure what Im looking at when it comes to the graphs and parameters.
Last edited by jammad1; Mar 22, 2012 at 11:37 PM. Reason: to add
The voltage reading needs to be smooth and unbroken.
This sensor's signal is used for a number of functions.
Among them is transmission shifting point vs RPM, EGR control, deceleration indicator,
the rate at which it increases it's output is detected and used for extra fuel upon rapid acceleration, unlocking the torque converter when throttle is lifted rapidly in cruise and more, so it's operation is very important.
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On hoses, sometimes it can be a source if the engine vacuum opens up a leak at idle when the vacuum is normally the highest or on decellertion when it is even higher.
Or even pull a fault open upon a call for heavey acceleration so it depends.
Keep at it.
Good luck.
This sensor's signal is used for a number of functions.
Among them is transmission shifting point vs RPM, EGR control, deceleration indicator,
the rate at which it increases it's output is detected and used for extra fuel upon rapid acceleration, unlocking the torque converter when throttle is lifted rapidly in cruise and more, so it's operation is very important.
.
On hoses, sometimes it can be a source if the engine vacuum opens up a leak at idle when the vacuum is normally the highest or on decellertion when it is even higher.
Or even pull a fault open upon a call for heavey acceleration so it depends.
Keep at it.
Good luck.
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How old are the plugs? My idle isnt exactly smooth either but I know its time for a plug change also so maybe that? Like Bluegrass suggested maybe the EGR is hanging or not ****ioning properly. Would an IAC issue cause this? I have no such "hang" but a flat spot in the rpm band from about 2k-3kish. Is it an abrupt pause?
How old are the plugs? My idle isnt exactly smooth either but I know its time for a plug change also so maybe that? Like Bluegrass suggested maybe the EGR is hanging or not ****ioning properly. Would an IAC issue cause this? I have no such "hang" but a flat spot in the rpm band from about 2k-3kish. Is it an abrupt pause?
, ha ha its funny now but wasn't a hour ago as I run past my wife from the garage butt *** naked and fly into the shower tears coming from my eyes!!!! any ways lol thank you guys for the in put






