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Patman 04-15-2010 09:02 AM

is your gas tank strap broken? Looks like its out of place in this picture
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/h...ent=SAS018.jpg

minimonster17 04-15-2010 09:29 AM

Klitch, what gear ratio are you going to run in the new axles?

GATOR CREW 04-15-2010 10:11 AM

Gonna be nice Klitch! I know you mentioned that you were going to keep it about the same height or an 1" taller, are you going to run different size wheel/tires?

Klitch 04-15-2010 10:23 PM

Pat: I don't think so?! I'll look, never even noticed if it looked funny when I was under it.

Minime :D I think 4.56's this time, gonna run the 3.73s a little bit to get an idea if I like the new ride height with the 37's or if I wanna stay slightly cheaper in the long run with 35's

Gator: Gonna start with the 37's I mentioned just above with 17" wheels

minimonster17 04-16-2010 09:33 AM

Personally, I would opt for the 37's, just for the extra increase in ground clearance for the pumpkins. still, it will look BA either way. with all the torque you have w/ the blown 5.4, the higher ratio of 4.56 wouldn't hurt.

Klitch 04-17-2010 01:47 AM

37s mounted onto rear axle. looks cool.

Need to know a couple things before I can move on (aside from waitin on calipers)


Slip yoke, how much spline movement should be allotted for? 1" of inward thrust when mounted to companion flange?

which "yoke" will bolt up to the superduty companion flange.

Patman 04-17-2010 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Klitch (Post 4181916)
Slip yoke, how much spline movement should be allotted for? 1" of inward thrust when mounted to companion flange?

yah 1" should be good, i dont imagine you are going to be on a high travel susp setup

4.2trimble 04-17-2010 05:14 PM

I still think you should get 4.88's but thats just me.

Klitch 04-17-2010 07:04 PM

I plan on running 35s again honestly, the price of 37's vs 35s is a major turn off and concern over the long run.

thanks pat, glad I'm not the only one agreeing with myself... :D

minimonster17 04-17-2010 10:41 PM

Just out of curiosity, why are you performing the SAS to only run the same size tires as you are now on the IFS lift? 35's don't eat up the stock front end that bad, at least in my experiences.

it will still be awesome and i wish i had the drive to do this to my truck, but to me it seems like a lot of work for ultimately, less true ground clearance than you have now. perhaps you desire the stonger hubs/bearings for payloading? or maybe a true manual locking hub system the IFS won't provide? better articulation, or ease in pulling the oil pan?

Klitch 04-17-2010 11:03 PM

ahhh MiniMe... :D

Better payloadability with the camper, plus then I can stuff my brothers toys and my bike in his 21ft trailer and be pretty well set, and then grin from ear to ear not worried about that rear axle. The brakes in comparison are monsters. better articulation will be more appreciated than ground clearance.

plus haven't you noticed I've blown that 8.8 apart too many times? I wouldnt wanna jump to the 9.75, do the same think or worse imo, send a shaft out the tubes.


If I SAS, and run 37's I really dont know if I could ever get under my camper again...

4.2trimble 04-17-2010 11:21 PM

Why don't you do the 37's then make a platform to raise the camper on, the lift difference in 35-37's is only 1". I agree that the swap is a ton of work for 35's a lot more than id do.

minimonster17 04-17-2010 11:29 PM

yeah, you've popped the poor 8.8 like four or five times, right?:D i'll admit the 9.75 is not invincible, i currently have a bearing in mine on its way out. makes a very annoying whine, lol.

i admire your hard work and dedication, though. are you gonna run coils or leaves up front? i imagine you'll have to weld in a new, low profile crossmember, and cut out the ifs frame crossmember running such little sas lift to give room for optimal articulation without interference. the brakes on the new axles will probably a vast improvement over what you have now, i hadn't even thought of that.

if i had another vehicle to cruise around town in while my truck was torn down, i would probably perform a swap like this myself.

Klitch 04-18-2010 03:03 AM

http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/193.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/194.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/191.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/190.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/189.jpg

I may do 37's I just worry a bit about the overall cost of replacements.

cotedog03 04-18-2010 10:05 AM

If you can get 16.5" rims, you could run 37" military goodyears, a set of those are usually cheaper than a set of decent 35's.

Klitch 04-18-2010 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by cotedog03 (Post 4182900)
If you can get 16.5" rims, you could run 37" military goodyears, a set of those are usually cheaper than a set of decent 35's.

...

I have those going onto my B2 (budget trail truck) because my parents bought a set that shook so bad above 35mph that the truck literally started to move out of the lane.

Bad experience = No go for me. Pretty scary when you consider their truck is a 2000 f250. May just been a bad set but wheres the guarantee I wouldnt get another set like that :lol:

4.2trimble 04-18-2010 03:12 PM

ive never like the military 37's ive never had much to say about that. they suck majorly in mud.

are you gonna cut and replace the old IFS crossmember? I would imagine you would have to for clearance reasons. Remeber to make the new one before cutting the old one out of the frame will spread out.

cotedog03 04-18-2010 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Klitch (Post 4183214)
...

I have those going onto my B2 (budget trail truck) because my parents bought a set that shook so bad above 35mph that the truck literally started to move out of the lane.

Bad experience = No go for me. Pretty scary when you consider their truck is a 2000 f250. May just been a bad set but wheres the guarantee I wouldnt get another set like that :lol:

:lol: well thats probably why they're cheaper I guess. I've heard of people having trouble balancing them but didn't think it was that bad.

Klitch 04-18-2010 05:49 PM

Yeah :lol: probably why, they were friggin terrible. I mean my dads had run ins with crap biasply in his days but he even said those took the cake with that performance.

I've heard they are crap in mud, act like chalk in rocks just chunking apart.


Trimble, I have been wondering if I have to knock it out or if I can notch it heavily. time will tell, as you seen I have no room there, so I'm still waiting on getting it out to the slab where I can work easily. Plus I'm still waiting on parts :(

Klitch 04-18-2010 06:18 PM

Looks like a promising vendor, http://www.driveshaftsuperstore.com/

b2therad 04-18-2010 06:51 PM

Dude! What wheels are those 37s mounted on??

Klitch 04-18-2010 07:09 PM

http://www.procomptires.com/truck-je...23-wheels.aspx

Procomp series 8023s. matches grandma (my mom) explorer.

minimonster17 04-18-2010 11:01 PM

By no means am I a frame integrity expert, but i would guess that heavily notching out the stock crossmember would weaken its integrity severely, and may leave the chance for the frame to pop open at some point under stress.

i was looking at the frame of my truck the other day, and was pondering if it would be possible to brace the frame to prevent it from spreading, cut the ifs crossmember out, cut off the parts where it droops down off, and weld the straight portion of what is left of it back in a manner that it just stretches between the two rails, and braces them together.

Klitch 04-18-2010 11:14 PM

I would imagine it would take some stress to break a proper weld, the concern would more be of flexing/distortion.

minimonster17 04-18-2010 11:20 PM

yeah, that 's what i tried to explain by popping open. something shifting where it is not supposed to. you'll get it figured out, i've read through all of your engine/transmission build saga threads, lol.

Klitch 04-19-2010 01:26 AM

I have a weld-R I'll get it done :lol:

I figure the gauge of metal, and a couple of gussets to compliment the notching would probably work out well, but time will tell.

minimonster17 04-19-2010 08:50 AM

i noticed in the pictures that the rear shocks are not hooked up yet. are you gonna relocate the shock mounts on the sterling axle, or the ones on the frame to mount them?

Klitch 04-19-2010 11:02 AM

once I get the truck moved I need to weld the perches, and paint :thumbsup:

garysf-150 04-24-2010 11:07 AM

new guy need help can i take a rear end 9.75 with 3.55 and factory lock out of 2003 f-150 and put right in my 1999 f150 with no problems

garysf-150 04-24-2010 11:11 AM

:thumbsup:

Originally Posted by garysf-150 (Post 4190618)
new guy need help can i take a rear end 9.75 with 3.55 and factory lock out of 2003 f-150 and put right in my 1999 f150 with no problems


minimonster17 04-24-2010 12:07 PM

if your truck is 4WD the, new rear end's ratio must match the front differential's ratio. if you're swapping from an 8.8, you'll have to shorten the rear driveshaft 1 1/4''. don't hijack someones thread, either.

Klitch 05-07-2010 03:46 PM

http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/037.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/038.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/036.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/034.jpg


I believe one caliper leaks, so I will probably be pulling calipers off again, rebuilding the cylinders. and I'll probably throw more paint down.

More at FTC

Dnasty777 05-07-2010 04:41 PM

Looks good so far! Got some rake on that bad boy.

FordGuy24 05-07-2010 09:00 PM

Looks real good!

b2therad 05-08-2010 12:28 AM

The view in that first picture is awesome!

Klitch 05-22-2010 10:23 PM

Too many houses Brad! oh and sage brush, waaaay too much of that

Found some actual F250 parts and decided I'd use them instead.



The F150 plate was being stretched from the 5/8's bolts.
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p...002_594936.jpg


I'm 5'6
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p...034_525228.jpg




http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p...002_864223.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/004.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p...005_322890.jpg

Klitch 05-23-2010 10:28 PM

http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p...002_286263.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p.../2/1/5/003.jpg
http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p...005_269768.jpg

Klitch 06-14-2010 01:16 AM

http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/p...005_602770.jpg

stoffer 06-14-2010 01:39 AM

:beers: :lurk:

Klitch 06-14-2010 01:50 AM

Tomorrow I hope pulling my wisdom teeth dont put me in a haze. Have the pitman, drag link, torsions and lower suspension to drop before I can tank that IFS 8.8.

Trying to salvage every part for resale, it'll help with the overall bill.

:beers: sounds GOOD


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