Swap OEM radio for OEM Nav
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Factory Nav Kit for F150 Ebay Item 251194333555
This is listed on Ebay. It provides a complete kit to add the newer Ford/Clarion hard drive nav to the 2009 thru 2012 Ford F150. Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251194333555...84.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251194333555...84.m1555.l2649
Last edited by starquester; 12-04-2012 at 05:28 PM.
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The two plugs that attach to the bezel are for the HVAC controller which is on the bezel for the non-nav. There is a different HVAC controller for the nav that is located under the dash tray on top of the dash. Needless to say the connectors and wiring arrangement are different. I am going to make a jumper cable to allow the Nav cables to just plug into the non-nav connectors. I will be going to an automobile audio store to try and find the male connectors needed.
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It's EASY to do. Just buy the NAV radio and bezel.
The problem is from what I understand is the NAV radio's are almost impossible to get, what supply they have is going into the production line vehicals.
IF you could get one ordered, the radio and bezel will likely cost about $3,000-$4,000.
-ThaChad
The problem is from what I understand is the NAV radio's are almost impossible to get, what supply they have is going into the production line vehicals.
IF you could get one ordered, the radio and bezel will likely cost about $3,000-$4,000.
-ThaChad
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In addition to the wiring jumpers from the nav HVAC controller to the wiring harness from the non-nav HVAC controller it appears that four wires will have to be added. Two of the wires plus a shield go between the radio (ACU) and the SYNC module. Two wire plus a shield go between the radio and the audio digital signal processing module which is located on the floor under the flow-thru console. A third wire between the radio and the ADSP will have to be relocated to a different PIN in the connector at the radio. Connector 2123 which goes to the display may also have to have a couple wires modified. I haven't finished researching this. Seeing that new wires go to the SYNC module may indicate a different SYNC module will be needed. More to come.
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Did anybody figured out how to connect the HVAC/EATC module on a non NAV dash?
I just made the swap of a OEM NAV radio with it's bezel & control modules from a Lariat to my 2011 FX4. The radio and the NAV is already working great. My next step is to have the new automatic HVAC working properly. I understand that the HVAC conncectors aren't the same and need new wiring in order to connect to the new EATC module. Anyone have some clue on how to connect this new wiring?
Thank's for helping,
I just made the swap of a OEM NAV radio with it's bezel & control modules from a Lariat to my 2011 FX4. The radio and the NAV is already working great. My next step is to have the new automatic HVAC working properly. I understand that the HVAC conncectors aren't the same and need new wiring in order to connect to the new EATC module. Anyone have some clue on how to connect this new wiring?
Thank's for helping,
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The DEATC HVAC with the Nav uses a different module than the standard DEATC. The module fits in the dash where the standard interface display is located. The Nav display shows all the information making the small disply at the top of the dash unneeded. This module has two connectors that you can make a jumper for that will tie-in the main wiring harness. I do have a sketch of the overall wiring changes and the jumpers. I'll have to scan them and can email them to you.
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Yes, that's what I have figured out. The 6 CD's Sony EMTC Bezel module was replaced by a remote DATC under the top dash. Both have 2x 26 pins plugs and according to the wiring diagram, all terminals have to be remapped from C294A & C294B EMTC connector to the DATC C226A & C226B plugs. What is helping, old & new wiring seem to have all same color code for same wire description. Only thing, the DACT module for the auto HVAC have 9 more wires that need to be configured that are non existing on the manual HVAC.
To avoid splicing, it would be a lot easier if 26 pins Male plugs were available to fit directly on the existing C294A & C294B EMTC Female connectors rerouted to the DATC C226A & C226B wires. Didn't found anything on Metra?
For those who this may help, I have made below a resume of the wiring pin out of the manual HVAC EMTC module & the Auto HVAC DATC module.
Line sequence is as followed: Wire Description, Pin#, Connector#, Wire color.
As I said, there are 9 more terminals on plug C226B from the DATC that are non existing on the EMTC that have to be rerouted (sunload, heated seats & HVAC temp door. At this time, I am trying to find a donor for those missing modules. Good thing that I already have this expensive DATC module. Other modules don't seem to be much expensive from dealer.
Regards,
MANUAL HVAC EMTC MODULE:
RECIRC DOOR CW, 2, BU-GY, C294A
RECIRC DOOR CCW, 3, GN-OR, C294A
AMBIANT TEMP SENSOR, 4, GN-BU, C294A
HUMIDITY SENSOR, 5, WH-BU, C294A
MODE DOOR 1 CCW, 6, WH-BU, C294A
MODE DOOR 1 CW, 7, YE-GY, C294A
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CCW, 8, BU-WH, C294A
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CW, 9, YE-OR, C294A
GND, 10, BK, C294A
FRONT BLOWER RELAY, 11, VT-GN, C294A
MS CAN+, 12, GY-OG, C294A
MS CAN-, 13, VT-OG, C294A
AIR INLET FDBK, 16, GN-VT, C294A
EVAP TEMP SENSOR, 19, VT-BN, C294A
DRIVER TEMP DOOR FDBK, 20, BU-BN, C294A
MODE DOOR 1 FDBK, 21, YE-VT, C294A
DEFROST STATUS, 22, WH-OG, C294A
RETURN, 23, GY-BU, C294A
V REF, 24, BN-WH, C294A
DEFROST REQUEST, 25, BN-BU, C294A
BLOWER SW HIGH, 2, YE-OG, C294B
BLOWER SW MED-HIGH, 3, GY-BN, C294B
BLOWER SW MED-LOW, 4, GN-WH, C294B
BLOWER GND, 5, BK-WH, C294B
AUTO HVAC DATC MODULE:
AIR INLET DOORK FDBK, 3, C226A, GN-VT
PASS HEATED SEAT REQUEST, 4, C226A, GY-YE
DRIVER HEATED SEAT REQUEST, 5, C226A, WH-BU
EVAP TEMP SENSOR, 6, C226A, VT-BN
DRIVER TEMP ACT FDBK, 7, C226A, BU-BN
MODE 1 ACT FDBK, 8, C226A, YE-VT
DEFROST STATUS, 9, C226A, WT-OG
RETURN, 10, C226A, GY-BU
V REF, 11, C226A, YE-VT
DEFROST REQUEST, 12, C226A, BN-BU
VARIABLE BLOWER CRTL, 14, C226A, WH-VT
RECIRC CW, 15, C226A, BU-GY
RECIRC CCW, 16, C226A, GN-OG
MODE DOOR 1 CCW, 19, C226A, WH-BU
MODE DOOR 1 CW, 20, C226A, YE-GY
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CCW, 21, C226A, BU-WH
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CW, 22, C226A, YE-OG
GND, 23, C226A, BK
FRONT BLOWER RELAY, 24, C226A, VT-GN
MS CAN-, 25, C226A, GY-OG
MS CAN+, 26, C226A, VT-OG
PASSENGER SUNLOAD, 3, C226B, YE-OG
PASS HEATED SEAT LOW STATUS, 4, C226B, GY
PASS HEATED SEAT HIGH STATUS, 5, C226B, GN
DRIVER SUNLOAD, 6, C226B, VT-GY
DRIVER HEATED SEAT LOW STATUS, 7, C226B, YE-GY
DRIVER HEATED SEAT HIGH STATUS, 8, C226B, VT-BN
PASS TEMP ACT FDBK, 16, C226B, WH-BN
HUMIDITY SENSOR, 20, C226B, WH-BU
AMBIANT TEMP SENSOR, 21, C226B, GN-BU
PASS TEMP DOOR CCW, 25, C226B, GBN-GN
PASS TEMP DOOR CW, 26, C226B, BU-OG
To avoid splicing, it would be a lot easier if 26 pins Male plugs were available to fit directly on the existing C294A & C294B EMTC Female connectors rerouted to the DATC C226A & C226B wires. Didn't found anything on Metra?
For those who this may help, I have made below a resume of the wiring pin out of the manual HVAC EMTC module & the Auto HVAC DATC module.
Line sequence is as followed: Wire Description, Pin#, Connector#, Wire color.
As I said, there are 9 more terminals on plug C226B from the DATC that are non existing on the EMTC that have to be rerouted (sunload, heated seats & HVAC temp door. At this time, I am trying to find a donor for those missing modules. Good thing that I already have this expensive DATC module. Other modules don't seem to be much expensive from dealer.
Regards,
MANUAL HVAC EMTC MODULE:
RECIRC DOOR CW, 2, BU-GY, C294A
RECIRC DOOR CCW, 3, GN-OR, C294A
AMBIANT TEMP SENSOR, 4, GN-BU, C294A
HUMIDITY SENSOR, 5, WH-BU, C294A
MODE DOOR 1 CCW, 6, WH-BU, C294A
MODE DOOR 1 CW, 7, YE-GY, C294A
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CCW, 8, BU-WH, C294A
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CW, 9, YE-OR, C294A
GND, 10, BK, C294A
FRONT BLOWER RELAY, 11, VT-GN, C294A
MS CAN+, 12, GY-OG, C294A
MS CAN-, 13, VT-OG, C294A
AIR INLET FDBK, 16, GN-VT, C294A
EVAP TEMP SENSOR, 19, VT-BN, C294A
DRIVER TEMP DOOR FDBK, 20, BU-BN, C294A
MODE DOOR 1 FDBK, 21, YE-VT, C294A
DEFROST STATUS, 22, WH-OG, C294A
RETURN, 23, GY-BU, C294A
V REF, 24, BN-WH, C294A
DEFROST REQUEST, 25, BN-BU, C294A
BLOWER SW HIGH, 2, YE-OG, C294B
BLOWER SW MED-HIGH, 3, GY-BN, C294B
BLOWER SW MED-LOW, 4, GN-WH, C294B
BLOWER GND, 5, BK-WH, C294B
AUTO HVAC DATC MODULE:
AIR INLET DOORK FDBK, 3, C226A, GN-VT
PASS HEATED SEAT REQUEST, 4, C226A, GY-YE
DRIVER HEATED SEAT REQUEST, 5, C226A, WH-BU
EVAP TEMP SENSOR, 6, C226A, VT-BN
DRIVER TEMP ACT FDBK, 7, C226A, BU-BN
MODE 1 ACT FDBK, 8, C226A, YE-VT
DEFROST STATUS, 9, C226A, WT-OG
RETURN, 10, C226A, GY-BU
V REF, 11, C226A, YE-VT
DEFROST REQUEST, 12, C226A, BN-BU
VARIABLE BLOWER CRTL, 14, C226A, WH-VT
RECIRC CW, 15, C226A, BU-GY
RECIRC CCW, 16, C226A, GN-OG
MODE DOOR 1 CCW, 19, C226A, WH-BU
MODE DOOR 1 CW, 20, C226A, YE-GY
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CCW, 21, C226A, BU-WH
DRIVER TEMP DOOR CW, 22, C226A, YE-OG
GND, 23, C226A, BK
FRONT BLOWER RELAY, 24, C226A, VT-GN
MS CAN-, 25, C226A, GY-OG
MS CAN+, 26, C226A, VT-OG
PASSENGER SUNLOAD, 3, C226B, YE-OG
PASS HEATED SEAT LOW STATUS, 4, C226B, GY
PASS HEATED SEAT HIGH STATUS, 5, C226B, GN
DRIVER SUNLOAD, 6, C226B, VT-GY
DRIVER HEATED SEAT LOW STATUS, 7, C226B, YE-GY
DRIVER HEATED SEAT HIGH STATUS, 8, C226B, VT-BN
PASS TEMP ACT FDBK, 16, C226B, WH-BN
HUMIDITY SENSOR, 20, C226B, WH-BU
AMBIANT TEMP SENSOR, 21, C226B, GN-BU
PASS TEMP DOOR CCW, 25, C226B, GBN-GN
PASS TEMP DOOR CW, 26, C226B, BU-OG
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New hard drive Ford OEM nav unit
To install the self contained Ford OEM nav unit (same as a 2012 Super Duty) we have developed a complete kit. It requires custom mounting brackets, special programming per your vin "as built data', matching bezel, 2 tee harnesses to plug into your 24 pin and 16 pin exisitng connectors, antenna splitter (uses your exisitng Sirius antenna for GPS and Sirius), steering wheel control, and rear camera patch cable. It is a complete kit and can be found here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-F150-20...#ht_984wt_1397
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-F150-20...#ht_984wt_1397
Last edited by starquester; 08-01-2013 at 08:03 PM.
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I see this job was from 2/2012. It is 12/2013 now, was the radio ever installed. I'm very interested as I'd like to do the same.
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