BREAKING NEWS:

Ford today listed performance numbers for the biggest of the four engines. The 5.0-liter V-8 engine will crank out 385 hp and 387 lb.-ft. of torque, up from 360 hp and 380 lb. ft. of torque on the current 5.0 V-8. Ford dropped the 6.2-liter V-8 for the new truck.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...or-test-drives

•3.5-liter EcoBoost: This twin-turbo EcoBoost engine delivers V8-like 420 lb.-ft. of torque and 365 horsepower to enable towing of up to 12,200 pounds – more than enough to handle a fully loaded, three-horse trailer or large boat. It has earned an industry-leading maximum payload rating of 3,180 pounds

•5.0-liter V8 with twin independent variable camshaft timing: Improved power and efficiency, delivering 385 horsepower and 387 lb.-ft. of torque. Smart engineering enhancements such as a new long-runner intake manifold, revised intake cam duration and new pulse-separated exhaust manifolds help raise towing capability by 1,100 pounds to a maximum 11,100 pounds, and payload to 3,300 pounds

https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...ble-f-150.html

 

Payload numbers are insane for 1/2 ton territory

 

Coupla thangs ...

1. Are those payload numbers correct - EB should have the higher payload IIRC. And the payload increases in general are likely due to the weight decreases, not any power changes, IMHO.

2. Increase of 7 ft-lbs and 15 hp = 1,100 pounds additional # of towing? Again - platfom weight decrease here, imho...

3. What octane fuel was used? This is kinda important, lol.

4. The 5.0 numbers are so miniscule (single digit increases), you'll never actually feel the difference.

5. No - dint read the linkies - so I apologize if'n they addressed any of my points. Just a tad misleading given the subject context - must be the coffee deficit. lol

MGD

 

Well that's a huge disappointment ..... was hoping to see the 3.5 increase. I'm actually a little angry as this was a very big push to get a 15 rather than the 14's

 

HP and TQ numbers aren't everything. With a 15% in weight loss it's like getting a huge jump in power numbers

 

Think the 15's will have the same discounts as the 14's do ..... or any year for that matter.

MSRP is one thing but they always sell below that

 

Precisely my point:

The title (and context) was :

BREAKING NEWS! 5L & 3.5L EcoBoost HP & Torque levels REVEALED

However, apart from the insignificant & meaningless power increases published, the ACTUAL reason for the capability increases as stated is solely due to the massive diet the truck was put on.

Which, in point of fact, is no real news at all and should surprise no one who has been following the 2015 saga at this point.

Hell - those 'power increases' on the 5.0 are within dyno and manufacturing variance alone, such as it is, and what there is of it .... and as to WTF they even bothered to restate the EB's already well-known current specs is ... well, I dunno what it is, lol. Slow news day, perhaps?

No disrespect intended towards the OP - as always

MGD

 

Payload and Towing chart:



link: https://media.ford.com/content/dam/f...ng_Payload.pdf

 

These numbers don't seem right at all. The 3.5 EB is the premium engine, and should have the best numbers yet it got no increase at all. That doesn't make since.

 

The 5.0 need's this HP bump. After all its a V8, Most people think a V8 should have more power than a v6. Now it can come closer to competing with the Hemi Ram and Silverado.. I think the 11-14 5.0 was like 5hp more than the chevy 5.3.

The 3.5 Eb will still be the go to engine for towing etc. I can only imagine how well the Eb will run being 700lbs lighter

 

Diet or no diet this is rather disappointing. Why get a boosted motor and burn more fuel only to make peanuts over a naturally aspirated V8. Let's be real, the ecoboost is usually constantly in boost due to the weight of the truck and the size of the turbos.

I have a ecoboost right now and literally just ordered my next one with an ecoboost on the hopes it would follow the path of the Lincoln Navigator. Are they at least gonna give us something to pride ourselves on? Graphite block? Engine internal upgrades?

http://www.torquenews.com/106/2015-f...st-380hp-460tq

 

Hopefully the 3.5 at least gets better gas mileage other wise I might be leaning toward the 5.0. It's cheaper, and sounds meaner.

 

However I have heard that 100lbs=10hp. So 700lbs is the equivalent of a 70 horse increase. Still I'm upset that the engine was not revised or upgraded in any aspect. For a company wanting to move to a smaller displacement motor overtime, they sure aren't killing off the V8.

 

VERY misleading to promote numbers without showing the data; the plots. Maybe the V8 makes 30lbs-ft fewer peak, but over the course of the powerband might make an average of 40lbs-ft MORE. Make sense?

 

Um...considering the EB holds a TQ curve that resembles a straight line from 1800 RPM until about 4000 RPM, the V8 can't shake a stick at that.