here i hope this helps

 

Thanks a lot. I have an appointment tomorrow to have the brackets just welded in place, along with my raised rear bumper. I'll try to look for those holes but I don't want to drill more holes in the frame, anywhere. Thank you for the quick response though.

 

you dont have t drill in the frame you just drill the brackets

 

I don't think we are talking about the same thing here. I have a manik brush guard part number 333051. It is a one piece guard, same as Mudder's. I stared at those brackets for a long time and saw nothing like you described in your drawing. I have three bolt holes but they are not even close to what you described. The bracket cant' even be drilled three inches above where they are, there is no steel there. Lastly, did you have to trim your valence to put the guard on or no? Thanks, Eric