In this video I go over a common brake pad install mistake on 2009+ that if you don't watch it will actually chew up your wheel and damage it pretty good before you even realize what happened. Something to keep in mind it happens more often than you think.

 

interesting, hopefully people would notice that when reinstalling the new pads. I have to do mine here soon, so that should help.

 

Good tip. Applies for the 2010+ models. 2009 used the same pads as 04-08.

 

Thanks for that, I wasn't sure just when they started this nonsense but I knew it was after 2008.

 

Interesting. Seems like this could have easily been avoided in the design stage but good info for everyone.

 

Pretty sure there was a reason for it. Would've been easier to just make all four pads the same.

 

Really?

If you are such an idiot you put the pads on backwards, you shouldn't be doing a brake job.

I knew I would be laughing at you when I heard "...brake job due by mileage and by age?

 

Not unheard of at all. I've had to replace brake pads because of rust issues when there was still plenty of pad left - more than half as a matter of fact. The back plates will rust and/or the holding pins.

When you live in an area that uses a mixture of salt and sand on the roads 4-5 months of the year it will stick to and corrode anything.

Laugh all you want - it sucks to have to replace brake pads that have lots of life left in them.

 

What in the world are you talking about I said others have done it that are not familiar with the truck, and yes the truck that this tip applies to are coming in and are due for brakes already for mileage or age reasons (rust, pitting etc). If you don't have nothing nice to say to someone that is just trying to help out, then just shut it and move on. Putting these on backwards happens more than you think or will ever know. If you knew anything about doing brake jobs on vehicles in the salt belt you would of never opened your mouth in the first place.

 

Rust and pitting are not caused by age. I would really appreciate it if you were to show me a faulty brake pad/shoe or rotor/drum that got too old to use.


If someone doesn't know better than to put brake pads on backwards, I sure as heck(*) don't want them working on my vehicle.

Tell my what problem you have with either of those statements.

 

That's why I only do one wheel at a time from start to finish. Leaving the other as a 'template' to refer to if I forget how it goes back together! Especially with drum brakes like my 97 had..

Good to know about these brakes having those tabs on them and will need to make sure they go on the inside for sure!

Mitch

 

ease up man, it's ridiculous to nit pick over choice of words when some one is trying to help others. Call it age or rust whatever. It is a result of spending too much time in bad conditions. Let it lie.

 

You must not work at a dealership, have you ever heard of the term lot rot? Yes the rust does attack the rotors pretty bad just from rainy weather etc so bad in fact we have to turn the rotors to get rid of the vibration when braking, as they are so far gone driving it and applying the brakes does not clean them off. Have you ever seen a drum on a ford Taurus? They get so rusted they literally start chunking off metal. Car brakes fine at the moment but customer want the noise/potential safety issue fixed, I would be replacing that drum by age. Front rotors on 98-2003 f150's get so rotted they will separate from the hat, not to mention are rust pitted so bad they delaminate and or have such deep grooves in them cutting is not an option this make the braking effectiveness go down the tubes customer complains of not being able to stop. The rotors get replaced by age they are too far gone to be useful and cutting them is not possible because they will be under thickness spec when all the rust, and deep grooves are cut out of them. You know how brake pads are glued to the backing plate on most pads now? I have seen them have 50% life left and rot so bad the pad actually separate from the backing ready to fall off, those would be replaced by age also etc. I could go on and on but the point is I have been doing brakes on vehicles in the rust belt everyday at a dealership for over 9 years so I think I know what I am talking about when I say replaced by age.......

p.s. I have a great example of one at work if you would like a picture? Yes I agree if someone is putting pads on backwards they shouldn't be doing it, but these are simply put on the wrong side of the rotor it happens allot and once you get rolling the damage is already done. Lot's of F150 owners take pride in their trucks and like to fix it themselves now they got a big deep groove all the way around the inside of the wheel- That is all I am trying to avoid.....

 

Age does not equal condition.

Certain parts need to be replaced due to age and the wear that their environment may cause them to change: brake fluid, the rubber brake hoses, the boots on a caliper, to be consistent with the discussion of brake parts.

Certain parts may be put into environments where their condition changes, i.e. salt and corrosives affecting the finish of a brake rotor, heavy gravel and dust buildup on a brake pad causing excessive wear, etc.

Therefore, stating that "lot rot" (what a cute term, btw) is caused by age is untrue. Loss of binding cohesion, rust, and grooving are not caused by age, they are caused by environmental condition.

Unlike you, I am not making a personal attack. If you knew the amount of experience I have, and where I obtained that experience, you might take a breath and consider that a general statement such as "replacing due to age" is deceptive and untrue.

I am simply objecting to statements made in your video that are not only deceptive, they are untrue.

BTW, 37 years experience, ASE Master L1. ASE Medium-Heavy Truck Certified. ASE Parts Specialist Certified. Ford, GM, and Subaru Master tickets.

But I'm sure you know those don't mean anything. Especially if you don't communicate clearly and concisely.

So I'm done now. Since you are apparently the depth and breadth of knowledge on the subject, I probably need to go somewhere more productive. Let me know how your flat rate superstar status works out. Better yet, don't bother replying.

 

Holy cow you have gone off the deep end you are so far off, Lot rot is an industry wide term used at dealerships all across America it is not my cute term it is exactly what happen they sit on the lot and rot away, I guess tires can't fail with age either ok I will keep that in mind, ASE's don't mean anything in the real world I learned that quick and have not renewed mine even Ford has recently dropped them as a requirement for our Factory Training certs, environmental damage can't happen without, wait for it......TIME (age). Speaking of time I would have more time (age) in my field if I would have started early on but I was too busy fighting the war in Iraq. Anyway Happy Memorial Day Buddy been good chatting with ya maybe you can teach me a thing or two sometime I don't know everything but I do know this is the most petty argument I have ever gotten into that I didn't even start.