roden:

"there is no way that the boys in Winston cup are using the same oil that you and I can buy at Wal-mart. Also, since when was it decreed that only companies that provide sponsership for Winston cup produce quality products?"

Yes, indeed the oil that Winston Cup cars use is the very same oil you or I can buy in the store. Now while some of the products that sponser Winston Cup may not be top quality, oil is top quality. I can say this for a fact, they, Winston Cup car owners are not about to use a bad or so-so quality motor oil, that is a FACT. I would also say that if Amsoil is such a HIGHER quality then any other oil Winston Cup, NHRA etc, would be WIDELY using it and promoting it.

If Amsoil is so much better then why does it NOT share shelf space with other top quality oils at stores state wide?

Like I said, Amsoil is a great product with excellent quality, but does NOT warrant the price they charge for it since it does NO better at protection then other quality oils.

Good quality oil will protect your motor and make it last just as long as Amsoil does. The difference is cost and cost only. I am NOT telling people who use Amsoil that their oil won't protect as good as the oil I use, but no one can tell me for a FACT that my oil will not protect just as well as Amsoil.

It's great to have an opinion on a subject but this subject has many opinions on different brand oils and thier quality. The point is they all have enough quality to protect as well as Amsoil. In the future before you state something (Winston Cup using their own special oil) you need the facts first. The fact is and I know this first hand is Winston Cup cars do use oil that is on store shelfs for consumers, nothing special about it, no secert shop somewhere etc. Trust me if Winston Cup owners were producing their own special brand of oil it would be on sale everywhere and they would be highly promoting it and people would be buying a sh*t load of it because Winston Cup fans are very product loyal.

 

I have used Amsoil for over two years and have converted alot of my friends over to it. I have put it in everything from a lawn mower to a 9 second drag car, and have not had any oil related problems. I run the oil to the Amsoil specified intervals and also run the filters. I have it in police cars and every day drivers.

The fact is if you "feel" comfortable with something you should use it. Alot of people hear that you go 12,500 miles before changing the filter and another 12,500 miles before changing the oil and they freak. But once they get over the old school thinking they absolutly love it. They get better fuel economy and smoother running engines, and on top of that they save money on regular maintenance.

Bottom line...if it has got Toes or Tires it is going to give you problems. The only thing we can do is try our best to prevent them.

Just my opinion,
Mike

 

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I'm not one of those guys that believes that Amsoil is the be all end all, but they are of higher quality than most of the other oils on the shelf. Redline and Schaeffer's also produce high quality lubricants, but they don't have a high profile on the Winston cup circuit (as far as I know). I've heard that these cars run a "0" weight oil for qualifying. When was the last time you saw that at Wal-mart? I have no idea why Amsoil chooses to market their products the way they do, but that doesn't mean that because you can find Quakerstate everywhere and their logo is splashed all over the side of a neckcar that they make the best oil. Winston cup owners use brand x because someone PAYS them to. That doesn't mean that they think that it is the best oil or they even use it for that matter. Those cars make it to the grid because they are FINANCED by sponsers. Team X doesn't use Valvoline because they think it is the best, they use it because Valvoline pays them alot of money to be associated with their team. Of course,Winston cup teams don't produce special oil formulations but their sponsers may produce race and qualifying formulations.

 

and that is that both are good oils.. I use Mobil 1 oil and oil filters on my L. I change it every 6000 miles even though it says I can go further..
yes I understand that they ship their orders quickly and you dont have to wait.. but I just go to the oil change place and have them do it there.. its not much more in cost to me and I dont have to get rid of the old oil and have to clean up the catch tray, etc..
I do know that when the Corvette Racing Series switched from Mobil 1 to Exxons oil, the cars started having more engine related problems and the drivers/teams complained and were able to switch back to Mobil 1.. (this was quite a few years ago)
most of the differences in the synthetic oils is really splitting hairs to most of us.. go with what you like.. it probably wont matter that much.. unless you go with really cheap stuff..
Dana

 

roden:

I respect your opinion, and apoligize if I came across as making you look like a die hard Amsoil person. From what I understand you are right and their quality is better then most. I am not disputing that fact. I am only saying that regardless of their oil having a little higher quality compared to others it is not enough, in my opinion, to make much if any difference in how mass produced motors wear, IF properly cared for.

I can tell you, from experence, that NO Winston Cup team is going to use anything but a high quailty oil in their motors. No sponser is going to force upon a team owner to use their oil. Does the Valvoline team use Valvoline oil, absolutely but it is because the decission was a correct one to begin with. The fact of the matter is say if brand X oil came out and was poor quality oil, and a team decided to get sponsership from brand X oil and it didn't perform and they were blowing motors well fact is the team would get rid of brand X as a sponser. Team owners are in it for what everyone else is MONEY. You won't be making any money by blowing motors or having major motor problems because you won't be finishing any races thus ALL your sponsership money will dry up. The oil used in Winston cup is readly avalible to the public. Yes they use to use a VERY light weight oil for qualifying a few years back, also those qualifying motors were built for MAX horsepower and weren't expected to last more then a few laps.

Now they don't use such a light weight oil because they have to race with the same motor they qualify with.

Don't get me wrong, I have not and am not knocking Amsoil I am only saying for the money it does not protect any better then any other good quality motor oil.

Some people like it and swear by it and thats great. I have no problem. The only problem I have is when, and you have not, but when someone comes along and says Amsoil protects better then any other oil and your motor will last longer by using it. That has not be proven not even by Amsoil themselfs.

 

First, let me say as stated above, I am not knocking Amsoil and I have used it in the past.

I do believe however, that their higher price is due to the multi-level marketing they use. If it was sold on store shelves I think it would cost less and there would be a larger quantity sold.

I use Royal Purple because it gives me peace of mind and IN MY OPINION it is a better oil. Of course as you know opinions are like a--holes, everybody has at least one.

Use what you are comfortable with and can afford.